The Conservative Party

Bodicoteblue said:
Now there’s a choice.
Either another screeching U-turn on another hard-held policy……or
just carry on and freeze benefits for the poorest.
Choices, choices!
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With that and what the CEO of BP said it rather pisses all over their "money needed to encourage investments" chips eh?
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
They were expecting it, they wanted it, the Tories refused it.

Why?
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It’s come to something when multinational corporations bloated with excess profits due to external factors out of their control are begging to be taxed more and the government are saying no we’ll just screw the poor a bit more. It’s remarkable.
 
west didsblue said:
It’s come to something when multinational corporations bloated with excess profits due to external factors out of their control are begging to be taxed more and the government are saying no we’ll just screw the poor a bit more. It’s remarkable.
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Did some mention that middle England will take the hit, a while ago? It a way to kill the economy as they will no longer be able to put money into it, maybe losing their own home or, at least, being on the verge.

Then, after a term of Labour, trying to sort out the shit-show, the media force the issue for the Tories, and they get back in and start all over again.

However, this seems more of a Blair period where the Tories are fucked due to the middle ground being represented by Labour.
 
west didsblue said:
It’s come to something when multinational corporations bloated with excess profits due to external factors out of their control are begging to be taxed more and the government are saying no we’ll just screw the poor a bit more. It’s remarkable.
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Spot on and staggering really - their ( the Tories ) driver is not necessarily making the rich richer but more making the poor poorer and pushing more people into poverty - they are truly hateful, spiteful and cruel. They need to go as quickly as possible. They are killing our country in front of our eyes.
 
woody1968 said:
Spot on and staggering really - their ( the Tories ) driver is not necessarily making the rich richer but more making the poor poorer and pushing more people into poverty - they are truly hateful, spiteful and cruel. They need to go as quickly as possible. They are killing our country in front of our eyes.
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It certainly seems that way with a modern day feudal system seemingly the aim, with most of the population being serfs working till they drop to enrich further the already fabulously wealthy barons.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Did some mention that middle England will take the hit, a while ago? It a way to kill the economy as they will no longer be able to put money into it, maybe losing their own home or, at least, being on the verge.

Then, after a term of Labour, trying to sort out the shit-show, the media force the issue for the Tories, and they get back in and start all over again.

However, this seems more of a Blair period where the Tories are fucked due to the middle ground being represented by Labour.
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Talking of the middle ground, I read an interesting report a few weeks ago into where our living standards really stand as subjects of the fifth most prosperous nation on earth.

Everything in the matrix was standardised, so a cup of coffee or whatever in the UK was the same price as elsewhere in the world, and the top 3% income earners in the UK enjoy the fifth highest living standards which is commesurate with our national wealth.

Things start to decrease after that though. A middle income earner in the UK was ranked around 20th on the planet, and would have a higher standard of living in an eastern European country, and as for the rest earning a typical wage, they were well down the list.

It's conclusion was the average Brit was effectively living in a poor country, with a few pockets of wealth dotted about.

It's hard to disagree with those findings.

The Financial Times printed the report.
 
NPBlue said:
Talking of the middle ground, I read an interesting report a few weeks ago into where our living standards really stand as subjects of the fifth most prosperous nation on earth.

Everything in the matrix was standardised, so a cup of coffee or whatever in the UK was the same price as elsewhere in the world, and the top 3% income earners in the UK enjoy the fifth highest living standards which is commesurate with our national wealth.

Things start to decrease after that though. A middle income earner in the UK was ranked around 20th on the planet, and would have a higher standard of living in an eastern European country, and as for the rest earning a typical wage, they were well down the list.

It's conclusion was the average Brit was effectively living in a poor country, with a few pockets of wealth dotted about.

It's hard to disagree with those findings.

The Financial Times printed the report.
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You only have to look at prices here compared to say the USA, pound=dollars, which shows how much extra we are been ripped off, i often wonder if we had been in the euro it wouldve shown how much more expensive it is to live here say a loaf of bread was 1 euro in France over here it would’ve been 1.20. Everything costs so much more yet our wages don’t reflect it, RIP OFF BRITAIN.
 
NPBlue said:
Talking of the middle ground, I read an interesting report a few weeks ago into where our living standards really stand as subjects of the fifth most prosperous nation on earth.

Everything in the matrix was standardised, so a cup of coffee or whatever in the UK was the same price as elsewhere in the world, and the top 3% income earners in the UK enjoy the fifth highest living standards which is commesurate with our national wealth.

Things start to decrease after that though. A middle income earner in the UK was ranked around 20th on the planet, and would have a higher standard of living in an eastern European country, and as for the rest earning a typical wage, they were well down the list.

It's conclusion was the average Brit was effectively living in a poor country, with a few pockets of wealth dotted about.

It's hard to disagree with those findings.

The Financial Times printed the report.
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Good find and representative of what we are seeing. Had a chat with a pure Tory yesterday and mentioned that we no longer have the living standards we once had and that the Tory party have been a government of lowering standards in all areas. There was a bit more to it and his response was very much that I won the debate and his thoughts on voting were beginning to change.

Even he is seeing that his party has been hijacked and what he once held dear has been pushed so far the right, they are no longer a party that he knew.
 
west didsblue said:
It’s come to something when multinational corporations bloated with excess profits due to external factors out of their control are begging to be taxed more and the government are saying no we’ll just screw the poor a bit more. It’s remarkable.
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It's mind blowing isn't it? But I suppose given that we've already got to the point where even the markets have said 'thanks but no thanks, you and your incoherent ideologies are all a bit too wingnut even for us' nothing should surprise us. Normally you associate being governed by lunatics as something that happens when an absolute monarch turns out to have had a mental illness, not in a supposedly functioning democracy.
 
Cleverly blaming the media for talking about the 45p and making them u-turn on it.

Small issue he says?

Someone tell the financial markets and the B of E it was a small issue lol.

Wanker!
 
west didsblue said:
It certainly seems that way with a modern day feudal system seemingly the aim, with most of the population being serfs working till they drop to enrich further the already fabulously wealthy barons.
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It's fairly weird that even Iain Duncan Smith recognises that arranging budget changes to help the lower paid will all but guarantee that the extra money will be spent and therefore help the economy.
 
Bodicoteblue said:
Their problem is that they have allowed a party within a party to happen.
The Tory party as we used to know it barely exists now as the right wing extremist parasite that has grown in its belly has taken over, mostly refugees(!) from a smashed ukip and the ever lurking ERG.
It’s up to the old school tories - if any still exist- to try and reclaim their party from this poison, but it may have already gone too far.
It will be interesting after the next GE if they take a right pasting in which direction they will go, or if the right wing vote in Britain will become as fragmented as the left vote has been.
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I agree Johnson was their Trump alonng with his Bannan sidekick were allowed to hollow the party out. Every in the party must have known that this would happen, listening to them at the conference this morning the only question from one grandee was which type of kicking they are going to get at the next GE Canadian or 1997 style.
 
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