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another waste of our fucking money - that noose around the neck of Case gets tighter and tighter doesn't it? You will know its bad if he just up's and quits. When the Tories lose he will go anyway as he will be working with/under Sue Grey - I doubt he is a man who likes the boot being on the other foot

 
going so so well - scorched earth - bankrupt the country whilst blaming the last Labour Govt and claiming you are the party of sound finances ha ha ha ha ha Tory Bastids


Going so well maybe I should move savings into an off shore bank account can any one recommend one before the country is bankrupt
 
I haven’t the balls to do it but, is it time for an English Political Thread?
After all there is an Irish one which seems to encompass all NI issues, Nationalism/Unionism? Which is which nowadays?
There is a Scottish one which amongst other things, covers Scottish Nationalism.

What about English Nationalism?
I placed a couple of articles by Fintan O’Toole and Bridget Laffan in the Brexit thread which have been widely ignored.

I didn’t know where to place this from February 2023, so I’ll do it here?

Even if you haven’t time for the full interview listen to the last 5 minutes which I think offers an objective outside view of English Nationalism.

But what do I know, being Irish?


I am a Fintan Fan, a superb writer and political commentator.
 
I don’t agree with writing off so much money for fraud, and in fact I think every penny raised in tax should be accounted for properly.

But you could also argue that QE may not have been required in the first place had the last Labour government regulated the finance sector properly, and not been too cosy with the likes of Fred Goodwin, who was at Chequers every other weekend having smoke blown up his arse by Gordon Brown.

The die is cast now though, and like I said unless something dramatic happens with rates, the next government will be heavily constrained on spending, particularly if Labour maintains the role of the OBR. All imponderables at this stage but personally I think Starmer will do very well to hold it all together given the constants he’ll have to work within.
As you did not respond to my post i will reiterate, Labour will only be constrained on spending if they follow the neo-liberal orthodoxy.

The problem is when Labour under Corbyn pushed back against the orthodoxy, the establishment closed ranks and destroyed him through various personal attacks, lies and half truths.
 
another waste of our fucking money - that noose around the neck of Case gets tighter and tighter doesn't it? You will know its bad if he just up's and quits. When the Tories lose he will go anyway as he will be working with/under Sue Grey - I doubt he is a man who likes the boot being on the other foot


If he does fall on his sword we may well be treated to his TV interviews
 
Hansard is a wonderful thing.
While you condemn New Labour for the Deregulation of the Financial Services Sector, you seem to have missed in your selective memory, that it was ridiculed by the Tories in the House for not going far enough.
I can clearly recall that odious rat Gideon Osbourne getting irate at the fact he wanted much further removal of the regulations, and it was Members with clear traditional Labour values who were the opponents to what was always going to be a disastrous policy.
Is it not hypocritical to slag off a party for a policy when, if they had been in Government they would have went much further and caused much more pain?
He’s a fucking idiot with his utter ignorance.
In fact he’s so ignorant I think his posts are clarkies.
 
As you did not respond to my post i will reiterate, Labour will only be constrained on spending if they follow the neo-liberal orthodoxy.

The problem is when Labour under Corbyn pushed back against the orthodoxy, the establishment closed ranks and destroyed him through various personal attacks, lies and half truths.
In what way would you expect Labour to push back against the orthodoxy?

Corbyn’s fiscal plans ahead of the 2017 election, if strictly enforced enforced, would actually have resulted in less borrowing than transpired over the next few years under Conservative governments (pre-pandemic). He could of course have loosened policy much more had he won, but at least in terms of his stated fiscal framework, he was not especially radical in his ambitions.

The biggest issue at present is the level of debt servicing costs. There are some options for reforming the APF that could alter the outlook here, but these are not without risk. Do you honestly believe that Labour would not honour debt obligations, or indeed would you advocate such a step? I find that highly unlikely, personally.
 
He’s a fucking idiot with his utter ignorance.
In fact he’s so ignorant I think his posts are clarkies.
Sadly I have seen a lot of Self-Servative apologist's following a similar mantra.
It does tend to annoy them when they call b.liar a war monger and the record of the vote in the HoC shows who supported the invasion of Iraq for Oil and who voted to oppose.

They REALLY don't like facts.
 

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