kaz7
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Another day another vile policy put out , pick on the weak and cut inheritance tax , rinse and repeat , fucking cunts
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BrianW
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Real wages have tumbled over the last decade or so. This means that many, many people in employment are struggling to make ends meet, and also that many need Universal Credit to subsidise their wages - or, really, their employers. Successive governments, while not admitting it, have encouraged the development of a low-wage economy.
In part, at least, this is due to a long-term failure to address low productivity, which in turn is largely due to a failure to invest adequately. It is not, contrary, to the Daily Mail, the case that this is principally due to lazy workers. Piss poor educational standards add to the problem.
In consequence, there is not a massive gap between low-paid working and being on benefits for many people, especially those with kids and living in rented accommodation. This does not mean benefits are too high - they are practically at starvation level - it means that real wages are way too low. A major issue is the cost of housing is far too high. It is at a totally unrealistic level compared to wages and the problem is a deliberate constriction of supply. caused by, among other things, land banking and a shortage of relevant skills.
This situation is not easily resolved. Knocking 1p off income tax or adding £300 to the personal allowance certainly will not solve it, that's for sure.
Leaving the EU, while not the sole issue, certainly has not helped with this. We are a country that lives on trade, and we have made trading with our largest and nearest market far more difficult. It isn't rocket science.
Unlike a politician, I am not going to offer an easy solution. There isn't one. It needs at least of decade of hard work to start to improve things and there are about 100 levers that need pulling. The reality, like it or not, is that far from cutting taxes, we probably need to increase them in the short term. It may be possible to cut them when (if) the country becomes genuinely prosperous again. This can only be done via trade with external partners, not by taking in each other's washing.
In part, at least, this is due to a long-term failure to address low productivity, which in turn is largely due to a failure to invest adequately. It is not, contrary, to the Daily Mail, the case that this is principally due to lazy workers. Piss poor educational standards add to the problem.
In consequence, there is not a massive gap between low-paid working and being on benefits for many people, especially those with kids and living in rented accommodation. This does not mean benefits are too high - they are practically at starvation level - it means that real wages are way too low. A major issue is the cost of housing is far too high. It is at a totally unrealistic level compared to wages and the problem is a deliberate constriction of supply. caused by, among other things, land banking and a shortage of relevant skills.
This situation is not easily resolved. Knocking 1p off income tax or adding £300 to the personal allowance certainly will not solve it, that's for sure.
Leaving the EU, while not the sole issue, certainly has not helped with this. We are a country that lives on trade, and we have made trading with our largest and nearest market far more difficult. It isn't rocket science.
Unlike a politician, I am not going to offer an easy solution. There isn't one. It needs at least of decade of hard work to start to improve things and there are about 100 levers that need pulling. The reality, like it or not, is that far from cutting taxes, we probably need to increase them in the short term. It may be possible to cut them when (if) the country becomes genuinely prosperous again. This can only be done via trade with external partners, not by taking in each other's washing.
law74
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This is nothing to do with "helping the people" indeed I am not sure if it is even anything to do with poll ratings at this stage either, merely trying to prevent the even further far right from launching a leadership challenge that would ensure that the Tories are not even the official party of opposition after the GE and would put the entire life of the party at risk.Pretty sure there will be some kind of tax cut somewhere but more will come in March. Doubt they will make much difference either to peoples pockets or their poll ratings though.
100%, and thank you for putting it without resorting to swearing like I failed to do!Real wages have tumbled over the last decade or so. This means that many, many people in employment are struggling to make ends meet, and also that many need Universal Credit to subsidise their wages - or, really, their employers. Successive governments, while not admitting it, have encouraged the development of a low-wage economy.
In part, at least, this is due to a long-term failure to address low productivity, which in turn is largely due to a failure to invest adequately. It is not, contrary, to the Daily Mail, the case that this is principally due to lazy workers. Piss poor educational standards add to the problem.
In consequence, there is not a massive gap between low-paid working and being on benefits for many people, especially those with kids and living in rented accommodation. This does not mean benefits are too high - they are practically at starvation level - it means that real wages are way too low. A major issue is the cost of housing is far too high. It is at a totally unrealistic level compared to wages and the problem is a deliberate constriction of supply. caused by, among other things, land banking and a shortage of relevant skills.
This situation is not easily resolved. Knocking 1p off income tax or adding £300 to the personal allowance certainly will not solve it, that's for sure.
Leaving the EU, while not the sole issue, certainly has not helped with this. We are a country that lives on trade, and we have made trading with our largest and nearest market far more difficult. It isn't rocket science.
Unlike a politician, I am not going to offer an easy solution. There isn't one. It needs at least of decade of hard work to start to improve things and there are about 100 levers that need pulling. The reality, like it or not, is that far from cutting taxes, we probably need to increase them in the short term. It may be possible to cut them when (if) the country becomes genuinely prosperous again. This can only be done via trade with external partners, not by taking in each other's washing.
The tax increase needs to be on those corporations and individuals who are doing best out the current situation, but we know it won't be.
They are now floating the idea of getting rid of Inheritance Tax - to help the most wealthy 4% of people who actually have to pay it!
If you look at who was behind Brexit it was people who didn't want a pan-European tax regime that mightstop companies like Apple, Amazon, Costa Coffee arranging their affairs to avoid paying any UK or European tax, despite making huge profits out of their activities there.
If there is an increase in tax you can bet, like every financial difficulty faced by the country, it will be the people who do the work that get to pay. Austerity, Inflation, Deficit - all down to us to pay it while the spivs move their money offshore or employ expensive accountants to set up trust or whatever is the latest scheme.
fucking brilliant
You think that's funny?
I really can't stand Priti Patel. She has to be the most smug, snidey, self satisfied female politician I have ever seen. Ever.
And taking into account Thatcher, McVey, Braverman, Currie, Truss and some other gits that's saying something.
And taking into account Thatcher, McVey, Braverman, Currie, Truss and some other gits that's saying something.
WickyWain
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Matty Wanksock made me chuckle.You think that's funny?
dave_blue12
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Anyone going to defend this and vote for the party of fiscal responsibility at the next election?
TinFoilHat
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She always sounds like she patronising and looking down on you.I really can't stand Priti Patel. She has to be the most smug, snidey, self satisfied female politician I have ever seen. Ever.
And taking into account Thatcher, McVey, Braverman, Currie, Truss and some other gits that's saying something.
bluethrunthru
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You think that's funny?
yeah - thought the post made that clear?