The cool cats

[mayo31]

The whole scene had a rather homo-erotic feel to it. I strongly suspect that most of those involved were confused about their sexuality. Back in the 70's and 80's 'coming out' to a group of football fans would have been unthinkable. Instead, the members of these firms hid their gay tendencies by being aggressive and proving their manliness by kicking shit out of each other.

The only problem with this was that others got dragged in to the trouble and all footie fans hot tarred with the same brush (of being hooligans, not of being gay).

Such a shame really, when all if the trouble could have been avoided if they had just admitted their true feelings. The Guvnors, ICF, Zulus and Headhunters could still have arranged meet ups but instead of beating each other to a pulp they could have just engaged in group mutual masturbation. Still beating each other in a way I suppose but the worst injuries would have been a sprained wrist or maybe friction burns at worst.

I was wondering when an amateur psychiatrist would appear.

Is this actually deflection by you? Are you saying that you wanted them to all be gay so you could get a good pummelling and a punch in the face was not enough?

You may have a point though, who am I to say.

Funny how many people mix up Psychologist and Psychiatrist

Who saying I did

 

[levets]

You're the one bigging up the petty criminals, not me.

Please show me where i have been 'bigging up the petty criminals' would you? I have only said that's the way football in general rolled in the 70's and 80's and i too didn't meet any of The Guvnors until a couple of years ago. The vast majority have changed with the times and don't go to a match hoping a fight breaks out or to start a fight.
The rule is when you're in a hole, stop digging.
Time to put that shovel away and stop being so 'pompous' as someone else said.
And be careful up on that high horse. ;-)

The vast majority have changed with the times and don't go to a match hoping a fight breaks out or to start a fight.
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Because time waits for no one.... Many will be 50+ now

 

[nice neil]

You're the one bigging up the petty criminals, not me.

Please show me where i have been 'bigging up the petty criminals' would you? I have only said that's the way football in general rolled in the 70's and 80's and i too didn't meet any of The Guvnors until a couple of years ago. The vast majority have changed with the times and don't go to a match hoping a fight breaks out or to start a fight.
The rule is when you're in a hole, stop digging.
Time to put that shovel away and stop being so 'pompous' as someone else said.
And be careful up on that high horse. ;-)

"some chose to be leaders" ! What a lovely epitaph. You make them sound so heroic. Like you yearn for the days when one of these "leaders" could jump on someone's head, then brag about it in the boozer to any arsehole who'll listen. Dear me ! Leaders of what , exactly ? ! Oh, and that isn't the way football "rolled" as you call it, Mr Cliche. It's the way the idiots who associated themselves with football "rolled".

 

[mancityvstoke]

coooool catssssssssssss


Lived next door to Donald in Openshaw in the 90's.

Went on his coaches in the 70's and early 80's


NO RUNNARS (Taken from one of his leaflets)

The coaches went from under Piccadilly Station where he would get the lads off the trains to travel on his coaches.


Truly mental away trips. Not all black lads either.

Free bin bag as you boarded....................guess what for

-- Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:20 pm --

I think this might have been Leeds v Utd, last game of the season around 81/82 season. There were about 12,000 from Manchester including a lot of City. Most went by train and lots refused the buses back to the station.

yes this happened

This is obviously a bit dim of me but what was the bin bag for????

cool cat shopping bags.

Ask anyone who went on those trips. Coventry away was a shopping experience never to forget.<br /><br />-- Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:51 pm --<br /><br />

A much more measured response than the clown above. I've been in a few scrapes at away grounds but I still think football hooligans are arseholes. To me, anyone who goes out looking for a fight, just for the sake of it or to prove they're hard is an arsehole. And why wouldn't I say it to their faces ? What are they going to do ? Hit me ? Oh yeah. I forgot. They're hard ! Fucking arseholes !

What's the problem with it? They went looking to fight other people who were looking to fight. It's not like they started kicking the shit out of young kids with their parents.

Like Leeds did.

yeah in the seats away.............whilst we were locked in the Lowfield Rd

 

[mancityvstoke]

The whole scene had a rather homo-erotic feel to it. I strongly suspect that most of those involved were confused about their sexuality. Back in the 70's and 80's 'coming out' to a group of football fans would have been unthinkable. Instead, the members of these firms hid their gay tendencies by being aggressive and proving their manliness by kicking shit out of each other.

The only problem with this was that others got dragged in to the trouble and all footie fans hot tarred with the same brush (of being hooligans, not of being gay).

Such a shame really, when all if the trouble could have been avoided if they had just admitted their true feelings. The Guvnors, ICF, Zulus and Headhunters could still have arranged meet ups but instead of beating each other to a pulp they could have just engaged in group mutual masturbation. Still beating each other in a way I suppose but the worst injuries would have been a sprained wrist or maybe friction burns at worst.

Great post!

hooligans in skirts........won't catch on that ......Then again......Scotland fans??

Maybe being a bit girly encouraged our retail shopping experiences?? :)

 

[m7mcfc]

Please don't let this devolve from an interesting conversation into a thread about puns. It's neither the time nor the plaice.

-- Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:45 pm --

What's the problem with it? They went looking to fight other people who were looking to fight. It's not like they started kicking the shit out of young kids with their parents.

This thread sounds eerily like the cockneys banging on about the krays. Everyone knows someone who knew good old Ronnie and Reggie. Salt of the earth. Only ever maimed and killed their own kind. Hearts of gold ! These people were called football hooligans but I prefer to call them hooligans. They're just trouble-makers who crave attention. If it wasn't football it'd be another banner they were marching under. I just find it bizarre that people seem to have any affinity with these types. I must be in the minority that thinks going out to an organised fight with other petty thugs is a silly thing to do. I must also be in the minority that didn't know or meet any of the "guvnors" in the 70s or 80s. In fact, I wouldn't know any of them if they punched me in the mouth. Although that would narrow it down a bit !

I think burning marijuana for the sole purpose of putting yourself in a different state of mind is a silly thing to do but I somehow manage to not maintain an air of superiority about it.

More the mix of Sinsemilla and cigar smoke that evoke memories for me. To all you youngsters you can stick your blue cheese and whatever other THC laden plants you smoke now where the sun don't shine.

 

[CheethamHillBlue]

Like you yearn for the days when one of these "leaders" could jump on someone's head

Look, pal, i like others on this thread have said that's what it WAS like in the 70's and 80's. Not once have i glorified it, whereas you have been whining like a fookin tart about the 'leaders' jumpin on heads and going on about comparisons with The Krays.
If you want to play billy bigballs, ask any of the KK's, The Guvnors or any of the handy lads who post on here to PM you so you can arrange to meet up and tell them to their face what arseholes they really are.
I've had enough of your sh1te now. I keep saying 'that was then', you keep prattling on " I must be in the minority that thinks going out to an organised fight with other petty thugs IS a silly thing to do.
It happened in the past Neil nice but dim.

Give us a shout when the penny drops.

 

[Davs 19]

Please show me where i have been 'bigging up the petty criminals' would you? I have only said that's the way football in general rolled in the 70's and 80's and i too didn't meet any of The Guvnors until a couple of years ago. The vast majority have changed with the times and don't go to a match hoping a fight breaks out or to start a fight.
The rule is when you're in a hole, stop digging.
Time to put that shovel away and stop being so 'pompous' as someone else said.
And be careful up on that high horse. ;-)

"some chose to be leaders" ! What a lovely epitaph. You make them sound so heroic. Like you yearn for the days when one of these "leaders" could jump on someone's head, then brag about it in the boozer to any arsehole who'll listen. Dear me ! Leaders of what , exactly ? ! Oh, and that isn't the way football "rolled" as you call it, Mr Cliche. It's the way the idiots who associated themselves with football "rolled".

For someone who finds the subject matter of this thread so abhorrent, you seem to spend an inordinate amount of time posting on it.

Maybe you'd be better advised spending time on threads that didn't offend your sensibiities as much.

Always considering the well being of others, I am.

You're welcome ,your niceness

 

[salford blue 62]

cheetham hill blue bang on mate some people have never lived through it<br /><br />-- Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:18 pm --<br /><br />davs you tosser

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I was head of my own "crew" back in the day. We were called "the nice chaps" and if the pies in the Main Stand were lukewarm ( as they frequently were) we would take it in turns to write a strongly worded letter to Bernard Halford.

It was a simpler, happier time.