The Creeping Gentrification of City

Blue2112 said:
PistonBlue said:
The one thing I really don't agree with is the double loyalty points for Platinum. Loyalty points are used at Tesco so you don't go to Asda. Footballing loyalty is a completely different thing, and loyalty points should not be be more plentiful to anyone willing to pay a bit extra for their ticket, as opposed to someone on Gold who goes to exactly the same games.

100% correct and although I maybe cutting my nose off to spite my face and some people can't understand not joining cup schemes etc this is the sole reason I would not go platinum or on a cup scheme. The cup scheme would be perfect if they sold you cheaper tickets but gave you the same points but its the offering of extra points I can't abide. I might be alone in those thoughts but I feel strongly about the principal of it.

The thing about these kind of debates is that almost everyone looks at it from their own perspective.
Can I ask, how many points you have?
 
SteWadda said:
Blue2112 said:
PistonBlue said:
The one thing I really don't agree with is the double loyalty points for Platinum. Loyalty points are used at Tesco so you don't go to Asda. Footballing loyalty is a completely different thing, and loyalty points should not be be more plentiful to anyone willing to pay a bit extra for their ticket, as opposed to someone on Gold who goes to exactly the same games.

100% correct and although I maybe cutting my nose off to spite my face and some people can't understand not joining cup schemes etc this is the sole reason I would not go platinum or on a cup scheme. The cup scheme would be perfect if they sold you cheaper tickets but gave you the same points but its the offering of extra points I can't abide. I might be alone in those thoughts but I feel strongly about the principal of it.

You do get cheaper tickets they cap the price of them. I paid less then anyone not on the cup scheme for the FA cup derby last year.

Yes sorry I meant that as an incentive to join a cup scheme cheaper tickets and offers of first dibs in later rounds should be the only options used rather than extra points in the same manner as Platinum is.

-- Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:11 pm --

Mikecini said:
Blue2112 said:
PistonBlue said:
The one thing I really don't agree with is the double loyalty points for Platinum. Loyalty points are used at Tesco so you don't go to Asda. Footballing loyalty is a completely different thing, and loyalty points should not be be more plentiful to anyone willing to pay a bit extra for their ticket, as opposed to someone on Gold who goes to exactly the same games.

100% correct and although I maybe cutting my nose off to spite my face and some people can't understand not joining cup schemes etc this is the sole reason I would not go platinum or on a cup scheme. The cup scheme would be perfect if they sold you cheaper tickets but gave you the same points but its the offering of extra points I can't abide. I might be alone in those thoughts but I feel strongly about the principal of it.

The thing about these kind of debates is that almost everyone looks at it from their own perspective.
Can I ask, how many points you have?

In all honesty i'm not sure although I do think i'm around the 6,000 mark. I'm gonna gamble and wait until hopefully they drop down to my youngest daughters level which is probably just under 4,000. Could have been a whole lot more if i'd have chose Platinum the last two seasons but that's my choice.
 
CC1 said:
There are thousands of city fans who have had season tickets for years who witnessed crap football year after year and who DO go to away games in all weathers and even went to YORK away!!


lol!
 
Blue2112 said:
SteWadda said:
Blue2112 said:
100% correct and although I maybe cutting my nose off to spite my face and some people can't understand not joining cup schemes etc this is the sole reason I would not go platinum or on a cup scheme. The cup scheme would be perfect if they sold you cheaper tickets but gave you the same points but its the offering of extra points I can't abide. I might be alone in those thoughts but I feel strongly about the principal of it.

You do get cheaper tickets they cap the price of them. I paid less then anyone not on the cup scheme for the FA cup derby last year.

Yes sorry I meant that as an incentive to join a cup scheme cheaper tickets and offers of first dibs in later rounds should be the only options used rather than extra points in the same manner as Platinum is.

-- Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:11 pm --

Mikecini said:
Blue2112 said:
100% correct and although I maybe cutting my nose off to spite my face and some people can't understand not joining cup schemes etc this is the sole reason I would not go platinum or on a cup scheme. The cup scheme would be perfect if they sold you cheaper tickets but gave you the same points but its the offering of extra points I can't abide. I might be alone in those thoughts but I feel strongly about the principal of it.

The thing about these kind of debates is that almost everyone looks at it from their own perspective.
Can I ask, how many points you have?

In all honesty i'm not sure although I do think i'm around the 6,000 mark. I'm gonna gamble and wait until hopefully they drop down to my youngest daughters level which is probably just under 4,000. Could have been a whole lot more if i'd have chose Platinum the last two seasons but that's my choice.

I can see your point regarding Platinum it is a bit of a double win for ST holders when added to the cup scheme. Especially if money is no issue.
It could also be argued that those who struggle to get tickets for the home league games are given an opportunity to get to a big game even if they dont have loads of points, because they have gone to the less glamorous, potentially more difficult to get to and less supported games.

I hope you and your little one get sorted, good luck.
 
Mikecini said:
Blue2112 said:
SteWadda said:
You do get cheaper tickets they cap the price of them. I paid less then anyone not on the cup scheme for the FA cup derby last year.

Yes sorry I meant that as an incentive to join a cup scheme cheaper tickets and offers of first dibs in later rounds should be the only options used rather than extra points in the same manner as Platinum is.

-- Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:11 pm --

Mikecini said:
The thing about these kind of debates is that almost everyone looks at it from their own perspective.
Can I ask, how many points you have?

In all honesty i'm not sure although I do think i'm around the 6,000 mark. I'm gonna gamble and wait until hopefully they drop down to my youngest daughters level which is probably just under 4,000. Could have been a whole lot more if i'd have chose Platinum the last two seasons but that's my choice.

I can see your point regarding Platinum it is a bit of a double win for ST holders when added to the cup scheme. Especially if money is no issue.
It could also be argued that those who struggle to get tickets for the home league games are given an opportunity to get to a big game even if they dont have loads of points, because they have gone to the less glamorous, potentially more difficult to get to and less supported games.

I hope you and your little one get sorted, good luck.

I'm sure we will cheers.
 
Everyone knows, based on previous seasons, that if you're on the cup scheme you will get priority for semi and final tickets. If you didn't sign up, don't cry about it now! Why should someone who couldn't be bothered to turn up in the earlier rounds, but have loads of points, get a cup ticket before someone who has attended all the cup games? Your season ticket is for home games only, not cup games. If you wanted a better chance of getting a ticket, then you should have signed up, no sympathy here I'm afraid!
I think the club are quite fair in the way they do their loyalty points/schemes. At least you get a choice whether to sign up or not unlike other clubs. If you don't sign that's up to you, but don't start having a go at the club because you choose not to.
Too many blues seem to think they are owed something because they have followed City before we won anything. I've been a season ticket holder for nearly 15 years, and remember the York's away, Wycombe's on a shitty Tuesday night. The club owes me absolutely nothing! I choose to follow them and will carry on doing so as long as I can. Anyone who thinks they are owed something is following for the wrong reasons.
 
citytilidie85 said:
Everyone knows, based on previous seasons, that if you're on the cup scheme you will get priority for semi and final tickets. If you didn't sign up, don't cry about it now! Why should someone who couldn't be bothered to turn up in the earlier rounds, but have loads of points, get a cup ticket before someone who has attended all the cup games? Your season ticket is for home games only, not cup games. If you wanted a better chance of getting a ticket, then you should have signed up, no sympathy here I'm afraid!
I think the club are quite fair in the way they do their loyalty points/schemes. At least you get a choice whether to sign up or not unlike other clubs. If you don't sign that's up to you, but don't start having a go at the club because you choose not to.
Too many blues seem to think they are owed something because they have followed City before we won anything. I've been a season ticket holder for nearly 15 years, and remember the York's away, Wycombe's on a shitty Tuesday night. The club owes me absolutely nothing! I choose to follow them and will carry on doing so as long as I can. Anyone who thinks they are owed something is following for the wrong reasons.

But lets say somebody could be bothered to go to all the cup games but couldn't afford the money in the bank for the early withdrawal? so could not commit to joining the cup scheme.

I have no problem with those that join the cup scheme getting first dibs. However I don't agree they should gain extra loyalty points for it. Yes cheaper tickets and first dibs by all means as an incentive to join but there are quite a few of us that also attend all cup games but are not part of the cup scheme either by choice or by not having the money upfront in the bank in readiness for the early withdrawal and are falling behind those that can afford an earlier payment.
 
Blue2112 said:
citytilidie85 said:
Everyone knows, based on previous seasons, that if you're on the cup scheme you will get priority for semi and final tickets. If you didn't sign up, don't cry about it now! Why should someone who couldn't be bothered to turn up in the earlier rounds, but have loads of points, get a cup ticket before someone who has attended all the cup games? Your season ticket is for home games only, not cup games. If you wanted a better chance of getting a ticket, then you should have signed up, no sympathy here I'm afraid!
I think the club are quite fair in the way they do their loyalty points/schemes. At least you get a choice whether to sign up or not unlike other clubs. If you don't sign that's up to you, but don't start having a go at the club because you choose not to.
Too many blues seem to think they are owed something because they have followed City before we won anything. I've been a season ticket holder for nearly 15 years, and remember the York's away, Wycombe's on a shitty Tuesday night. The club owes me absolutely nothing! I choose to follow them and will carry on doing so as long as I can. Anyone who thinks they are owed something is following for the wrong reasons.

But lets say somebody could be bothered to go to all the cup games but couldn't afford the money in the bank for the early withdrawal? so could not commit to joining the cup scheme.

I have no problem with those that join the cup scheme getting first dibs. However I don't agree they should gain extra loyalty points for it. Yes cheaper tickets and first dibs by all means as an incentive to join but there are quite a few of us that also attend all cup games but are not part of the cup scheme either by choice or by not having the money upfront in the bank in readiness for the early withdrawal and are falling behind those that can afford an earlier payment.

Register it against a credit card and then you don't have to worry about having the money in your bank.
 
SteWadda said:
Blue2112 said:
citytilidie85 said:
Everyone knows, based on previous seasons, that if you're on the cup scheme you will get priority for semi and final tickets. If you didn't sign up, don't cry about it now! Why should someone who couldn't be bothered to turn up in the earlier rounds, but have loads of points, get a cup ticket before someone who has attended all the cup games? Your season ticket is for home games only, not cup games. If you wanted a better chance of getting a ticket, then you should have signed up, no sympathy here I'm afraid!
I think the club are quite fair in the way they do their loyalty points/schemes. At least you get a choice whether to sign up or not unlike other clubs. If you don't sign that's up to you, but don't start having a go at the club because you choose not to.
Too many blues seem to think they are owed something because they have followed City before we won anything. I've been a season ticket holder for nearly 15 years, and remember the York's away, Wycombe's on a shitty Tuesday night. The club owes me absolutely nothing! I choose to follow them and will carry on doing so as long as I can. Anyone who thinks they are owed something is following for the wrong reasons.

But lets say somebody could be bothered to go to all the cup games but couldn't afford the money in the bank for the early withdrawal? so could not commit to joining the cup scheme.

I have no problem with those that join the cup scheme getting first dibs. However I don't agree they should gain extra loyalty points for it. Yes cheaper tickets and first dibs by all means as an incentive to join but there are quite a few of us that also attend all cup games but are not part of the cup scheme either by choice or by not having the money upfront in the bank in readiness for the early withdrawal and are falling behind those that can afford an earlier payment.

Register it against a credit card and then you don't have to worry about having the money in your bank.

Yes but that doesn't address my issue with gaining extra points for cup schemers going to the same game as others. Cheaper tickets and first dibs by all means. Money is buying loyalty and thats wrong in every principal.
 
Blue2112 said:
citytilidie85 said:
Everyone knows, based on previous seasons, that if you're on the cup scheme you will get priority for semi and final tickets. If you didn't sign up, don't cry about it now! Why should someone who couldn't be bothered to turn up in the earlier rounds, but have loads of points, get a cup ticket before someone who has attended all the cup games? Your season ticket is for home games only, not cup games. If you wanted a better chance of getting a ticket, then you should have signed up, no sympathy here I'm afraid!
I think the club are quite fair in the way they do their loyalty points/schemes. At least you get a choice whether to sign up or not unlike other clubs. If you don't sign that's up to you, but don't start having a go at the club because you choose not to.
Too many blues seem to think they are owed something because they have followed City before we won anything. I've been a season ticket holder for nearly 15 years, and remember the York's away, Wycombe's on a shitty Tuesday night. The club owes me absolutely nothing! I choose to follow them and will carry on doing so as long as I can. Anyone who thinks they are owed something is following for the wrong reasons.

But lets say somebody could be bothered to go to all the cup games but couldn't afford the money in the bank for the early withdrawal? so could not commit to joining the cup scheme.

I have no problem with those that join the cup scheme getting first dibs. However I don't agree they should gain extra loyalty points for it. Yes cheaper tickets and first dibs by all means as an incentive to join but there are quite a few of us that also attend all cup games but are not part of the cup scheme either by choice or by not having the money upfront in the bank in readiness for the early withdrawal and are falling behind those that can afford an earlier payment.

Fair point, maybe the doubling up of loyalty points isn't fair across the whole board. Some people might look at it as the club rewarding fans who join cup schemes etc... but others may look at it as purely the club trying to get more money off people. Personally, I think it's a bit of both. I think the problem is that no scheme will suite everyone and people will find holes/flaws with any system. It just annoys me when everyone knows the criteria at the beginning of the season, choose to ignore or opt out, then moan about it later.
 

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