The Decline in Numbers, of British Mammals.

dennishasdoneit said:
Had a good think about this comment and I'm not quite sure ........there aren't that many UK mammals that a domestic cat can kill apart from rodents inc voles mice shrews and rats .
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Maybe it has another effect downstream, eating the prey they would have eaten.

Although I'm not sure. I know they aren't good for birds.
 
CheshireExpat said:
Maybe it has another effect downstream, eating the prey they would have eaten.

Although I'm not sure. I know they aren't good for birds.
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Possibly .....but I'm not at ease with the overall idea,save small British mammals by killing the domestic cat
With that approach,we would soon move onto kill kestrels and tawny owls to save the vole population !

The loss of suitable habitat ,because of Man,is a far more relevant factor in the decline of mammals , and it is Man who destroys habitat,brings domestic cats into urban areas then writes reports on the the decline in numbers of wildlife ..due to cats !

The ending of hedgerows in fields destroys valuable cover for all sorts of countryside species,bird and mammal
Cats are known to venture into countryside ,but no cat can be held irresponsible for the marked decline in the number of Water Voles,for example ....a once very common sight on every freshwater fast flowing stream
Where have they gone to ?

Another random example ,....I used to see signs of Moles across so many lawns or open country side. everywhere I went ,a real pest for home owners /gardeners ......the mole hills were everywhere ....maybe I'm looking in the wrong places but they are nowhere near as common

Why is that ? Nothing to do with cats .....Moles are rarely at the surface ,and cats don't dig underground ....
To develop my point further ,the water shrew numbers ,the bank voles also, any decline is nothing to with cats I imagine ...so that study mentioned above ...I'd like to see where it has it's numbers from.or does it refer to birds rather than mammals.?

Loss of habitat, pesticides the rampant drive for faster more efficient technology is ,imo ,far more likely to be behind the dwindling numbers of many British mammals ,than the effect of cat predation....ie Man

In my thread " where have all the insects gone" many have noticed the worrying drop in many areas of the insect population ... House spiders wasps hornets butterflies stag Beatles , blue bottles green bottles red bottles meat flies ...houses gardens and open air used to be full of them all spring and summer long .

No domestic pet is behind this downward trend .,.......
 
dennishasdoneit said:
Cats are known to venture into countryside ,but no cat can be held irresponsible for the marked decline in the number of Water Voles,for example ....a once very common sight on every freshwater fast flowing stream
Where have they gone to ?
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The short answer is that many of them have been eaten by mink. We’ve still got loads of water voles on the drains and ditches here in east Lincolnshire where mink is absent, same in Wales. Again, no mink. Everywhere else, loads of mink and water voles are endangered.
 
I found a dead deer in my yard this afternoon, it was in a crazy dead position, its neck was broken and I’m thinking that it was chased into that place by a domesticated dog. Got it out of there and into my truck, will take it to the dump in the morning.
We had at least 20 deer walk through the property after I had it loaded and I think they were wishing it well, I might be reconsidering my hunt status…..
 
idahoblues said:
I found a dead deer in my yard this afternoon, it was in a crazy dead position, its neck was broken and I’m thinking that it was chased into that place by a domesticated dog. Got it out of there and into my truck, will take it to the dump in the morning.
We had at least 20 deer walk through the property after I had it loaded and I think they were wishing it well, I might be reconsidering my hunt status…..
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Why take it to the dump Idaho, can’t it be eaten??
 
I can confirm that all the flies have gone to rural Shropshire, as I saw recently when I visited my cousins there. I saw more flies in a day than I see in Greater Manchester in a year, and that is no exaggeration. Everything has to be covered, just like in Grandma's day.

Their gaff is full of wildlife - they even have partridges pecking the windows.
 
idahoblues said:
I found a dead deer in my yard this afternoon, it was in a crazy dead position, its neck was broken and I’m thinking that it was chased into that place by a domesticated dog. Got it out of there and into my truck, will take it to the dump in the morning.
We had at least 20 deer walk through the property after I had it loaded and I think they were wishing it well, I might be reconsidering my hunt status…..
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I spotted a small deer carcass on the A38 Derbyshire just outside Ripley , looked like a Muntjac .
I've only ever seen 2 of these secretive animals before , one being at Moorgreen woods just outside Eastwood Notts when it suddenly appeared from the wood onto a public footpath, I was gobsmacked as I'd never seen one before. This was over 20 years ago and luckily my dog was looking the over way and didn't spot it!
 
dennishasdoneit said:
I spotted a small deer carcass on the A38 Derbyshire just outside Ripley , looked like a Muntjac .
I've only ever seen 2 of these secretive animals before , one being at Moorgreen woods just outside Eastwood Notts when it suddenly appeared from the wood onto a public footpath, I was gobsmacked as I'd never seen one before. This was over 20 years ago and luckily my dog was looking the over way and didn't spot it!
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Drive through Norfolk if you want to see Muntjacs... There's bloody hundreds of them over there.
 
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