The Deer Hunter; Discuss

[WestGorton]

Fictional relationships have historical inaccuracies because they don't exist. Neither industrial decline in 1970 Pennsylvania or the Vietnam War are factual inaccuracies though. A story about people living that cannot be factually incorrect, Shirley. Have you actually watched it?

Don't call me Shirley

 

[Withnail]

Great film, De Niro and Walken put in 2 stunning performances.

 

[Double R]

'Fuck it'

 

[Marklr]

One of the best movie scenes of all time.

 

[Gundog’s Gundog]

Not a patch on The Fast and The Furious 28

 

[urban genie]

Friendship, relationships, decline of industrial towns, parochialism Vs hometown loyalty, futile hatred of communism and the creation of a common enemy, PTSD, profiteering, loyalty? Or just one of those subjects?

Its an incredible film.

I get it, you like it but when I watched it both times, as I tried it agian after hating it first time, I still found it

Overinflated especially the first hr, which 15 minutes would have done and told the same narrative, all it did was tell us nothing but these friends were pretty much normal people, then we get to vietnam and it wholey inaccurate racist trope ridden ridiculousness, and then back to another selection of dullness in their return home.

I get it is folm in a very astetically pleasing way and the shots of 70s industural america are very well done, but the writting is terrible.

Finally it is remembered mainly for the end scene which is conpletely false and badly d8ne and again stereotying the "yellow peril" mindset of american audiences at the time.

It's original showing was boycotted and protested by vietnam veterans who considered it insulting, and it is still insulting to film, art, cinema, the vietmaese (and most south asians) the veterans and the war.

Complete shite imho but I respect that you like it and see other things in it, I just don't.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I too found it hard work. I also found it depressing, but not in a way that I found mentally stimulating, if that makes sense. I’ve seen plenty of depressing films which have challenged my thinking or changed the way I view certain subjects, or found enjoyable in a slightly twisted way. Films thst have left me thinking about them for long after they ended.

I just found this depressing.

This thread did give me cause to look up John Cazale, though, and read about his relationship with Meryl Streep. She must have loved him very much.

 

[fallowfield]

I don't think it's an amazing film...
But I love all the scenes set in the hometown (incl the wedding ). They are perfect and set the whole tone of that era in the US in industrial towns.
It's brilliant up that point I think.

But then.....I find the Vietnam scenes less than good, overblown, unrealistic, over the top acting.....
Prob just me and maybe just seen too many Vietnam films.
Spoils it for me though

 

[hilts]

Don't call me Shirley

Now that was factually incorrect. In real life the pilot was called Ted Stroker but the filmmakers didn't want any silly innuendos spoiling the drama.

The real Mr Stroker was not happy.

 

[idahoblues]

But did they kill Bambis mum ?

Bastards

No, that was me..and I’ll be killing her sister this weekend