The Detectives: Fighting Organised Crime

[Big mals fedora]

It’s referred to as adverse inference..as with the caution if you later use a defence in court that you could have mentioned at the time the court can consider why didn’t you say it at the time and take it into account when considering the evidence

But it’s obviously better for these scumbags to just say no comment, otherwise they wouldn’t. It should be used as an admission of guilt

 

[bluwes]

But it’s obviously better for these scumbags to just say no comment, otherwise they wouldn’t. It should be used as an admission of guilt

As the caution says, You have the right to remain silent

 

[bluwes]

However it doesn’t seem to carry the weight it should in my opinion

Absolutely,

 

[Big mals fedora]

As the caution says, You have the right to remain silent

Take away that right. I know I’m talking out of turn, and realise it’ll never happen, but there must be a way to make it more difficult for these toerags to just bat off their questions. Pisses me off

 

[bluwes]

Take away that right. I know I’m talking out of turn, and realise it’ll never happen, but there must be a way to make it more difficult for these toerags to just bat off their questions. Pisses me off

All went down hill with the introduction of PACE 1984. Keeps solicitors in a job

 

[nw42]

Yes. Him. I’m not wet behind the ears, but fuck bumping into this ****.
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Long lost brother of these two I reckon.

 

[Blackley_Blue]

Does he still run it ?

He got four and a half years in 2019 for his part in the machete/axe attack (his brother who worked there got three and a half). Don't think he got anything extra for the OCG stuff.

Haven't been in since but wouldn't surprise me if it was still in the family somehow.

 

[city2]

No comment , how the police refrain themselves is unbelievable, baseball bat to the teeth should help. Better than Line of Duty but very similar. felt so sad about the ending.

 

[city2]

Why are the jury not protected in these cases ie behind a one way screen, and also the young lad and his family should hvee been offered witness protection. No wonder the public don’t give evidence

 

[dronefromsector7G]

Who are the Rochdale smack rats buying off now then?

 

[CTID1988]

Why are the jury not protected in these cases ie behind a one way screen, and also the young lad and his family should hvee been offered witness protection. No wonder the public don’t give evidence

Jurys are more likely to find people guilty when placed in separate rooms its been found, it lessens accountability. I think the better solution would be to get rid of a jury altogether and replace them with a panel of judges

 

[heslops barnet]

Strange that the police officer who as arrested was never charged, no explanation given……

 

[Bluesince1979]

I guess they have to prove it, rather than just knowing.

Easy enough but its man power thatll be the issue. Need to sit there for a week counting customers

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Easy enough but its man power thatll be the issue. Need to sit there for a week counting customers

Not sure it is easy enough, but if you think you can convict all these shops quickly, you should become a Chief Super. It sounds like you might be able to irradiate money laundering overnight.

 

[baggy]

Who are the Rochdale smack rats buying off now then?

theres always people waiting to fill any gaps in supply, the war on drugs was lost decades ago and a new approach is clearly needed. The addicts also need help, many of which are victims and clearly vulnerable. this was a very sad depiction of the state of todays society. lots of lost people out there...

 

[Blue Maverick]

Who are the Rochdale smack rats buying off now then?

Theres a guy I know who’s heavily involved in a lot of this, he says there are 9 more like the Adam group in Rochdale and they are worse!

 

[Blue Maverick]

Not sure it is easy enough, but if you think you can convict all these shops quickly, you should become a Chief Super. It sounds like you might be able to irradiate money laundering overnight.

Do you think a cashless society could prevent this? Shirley if everything is done digitally they can’t claim 500 customers a day if they get 50?

 

[bluemonkey71]

Poor bloke who got attacked died in October. Mental health issues. Scarred for life after that horrific attack. RIP

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Do you think a cashless society could prevent this? Shirley if everything is done digitally they can’t claim 500 customers a day if they get 50?

It’d change the dynamics, but whether it could stop it, I don’t know.

It'd stop the shops being useful fronts.

Money transferring is mostly numbers, so that could obviously be abused for laundering purposes. It will be interesting to see if authorities can keep up with the OCGs’ systems.

There’s enough money in their business to create their own app, should they wish.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

But it’s obviously better for these scumbags to just say no comment, otherwise they wouldn’t. It should be used as an admission of guilt

Unfortunately it's their right....fuck anyone else's rights.

However, I used to enjoy IUC's (DWP) when I was interviewing and I had no comment all the way through. Could conduct the interview like a story without interruption.

I've not watched any of these programmes yet, I'm not sure if I will.