The dying NASA scientist videos

[buzzer1]

this whole bit that Mammutly posted (not the whole subject) is idiocy.

ElanJo - if you had some reason to share something with the world and you had the real goods, don't you think you'd painstakingly carefully collate all your evidence (the proper stuff) and build it up, and then take your dossier over to the Washington Post or The Times, or CNN, and blow the lid off it conclusively this way? Aside from making yourself a decent bit of coin in the process with perhaps one of the hottest stories of living memory, OR do you think you'd sit at home and make a half-arsed piss-take video like this and post it YouTube?

if there was REAL evidence and REAL people had it, who wanted to expose it, THEN we'd bloody well hear about it one way or the other - think about it.

we wouldn't be talking about a friggin video on YouTube that was breaking this news - get real.

get it now?

this isn't about newspapers - I mean just look at them.. we know they're full of shit to a large extent, it's about what would actually happen if someone really had something as big as this to break and they had the stones and evidence behind it.

(because as most people looking at this ridiculous 'dying NASA scientist' horseplay know, it's a total joke and they laugh at how it suckers so many people who should know better - this was the subject of the OP was it not? What do I think of them, a load of shit basically that actually demeans a potentially very serious and interesting topic that may or may not have merit)

they tried to, in i think it was 2001 a press conference was held at the national press club in Washington USA over a hundred top retired military, JPL, NASA and various scientist gave there accounts of what they know and have seen and agreed to stand before congress and tell them what they know and have seen. (by the way none of them have been taken up on this offer)

it was called the Disclosure Project and was led by Dr Steven Greer, the funny thing is that the press conference was for worlds media and international press but none of them showed up or took an interest.

i wonder why?

Disclosure Project? Pah, it's on youtube BB so must be complete ballax. :)

 

[rickmcfc]

All of this makes our "Richest Club in the World" tag, seem a little insignificant :(

We'll buy your Universe, and burn it down
We'll buy your Universe, and burn it down
We'll buy your Universe, and burn it down
We'll buy your Universe, and burn it down
We'll buy your Universe, and burn it down
We'll buy your Universe, and burn it down
We'll buy your Universe, and burn it down

Fuck off back to your planet
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This planet is ours, this planet is ours, fuck of back to pluto, this planet is ours!
This planet is ours, this planet is ours, fuck of back to pluto, this planet is ours!

 

[peacefrog]

Brilliant, but I've never seen an aeroplane like those.

Infact the metallic looking one was in close proximity to an actual plane. Maybe it was a small refueling drone or something? I don't know. As far as I'm concerned it was an Unidentified Flying Object.

Ha ha,a mate of mine seen what appeared to be a pulsing object almost parallell to the East Lancs rd, obviously in the sky and it was doing a bit of darting about until it seemed to completely change shape,(aeroplane like) and start heading back to whence it came from at the first sighting by my mate, steadily as in 'plane like mode, then it changed again and started darting to and fro, i don't know if my mate had his night vision's with him as he was just visiting his mums house. Shapeshifting ufo? who knows.

Apparently they have been known to.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTJsRi-4wdk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTJsRi-4wdk</a>



<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7jrmkeU78I" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7jrmkeU78I</a>

The 1st one I think is clearly a bunch of those silver helium balloons, half moon shaped, tied together.
The 2nd is harder to tell. It's a pretty bad quality clip. But if I was to make a guess I'd say it some kind of remote control toy. Like this one...
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeCEk7aXKrQ&feature=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeCEk7aX ... re=related</a>

 

[mammutly]

When speaking of eyewitness evidence of course the crediblity of the witness is important. The testimony of a 50 year pilot is going to be more credible than most on the subject of UFOs.
Eyewitness evidence is important, we use it in court cases, but of course it's not enough on its own. That's why I am intrgued by the UFO incidents by pilots that coincide with radar readings. More evidence is needed but it's a fascinating topic.

As for the claim: "oh if there was any truth in X it would be all over the papers" Well, to say such a thing is to be pretty ignorant of history. So much shit that Governments have done have gone unreported, be it through censorship or mere self censorship by the journalists themselves. The latter is as clear as day on the subject of UFOs. On the occasion that UFO stuff does get into the papers or news they feel they need to treat it as a sort of joke. Smacks of insecurity.

The stigma is slowly fading as science progresses but it has to be said that a number of people who are interested in UFOs don't do the subject any favours with their kookiness (tho of course those that are a bit mental are the ones most likely to be shown in the media, such is the way they treat the subject)

this whole bit that Mammutly posted (not the whole subject) is idiocy.

ElanJo - if you had some reason to share something with the world and you had the real goods, don't you think you'd painstakingly carefully collate all your evidence (the proper stuff) and build it up, and then take your dossier over to the Washington Post or The Times, or CNN, and blow the lid off it conclusively this way? Aside from making yourself a decent bit of coin in the process with perhaps one of the hottest stories of living memory, OR do you think you'd sit at home and make a half-arsed piss-take video like this and post it YouTube?

if there was REAL evidence and REAL people had it, who wanted to expose it, THEN we'd bloody well hear about it one way or the other - think about it.

we wouldn't be talking about a friggin video on YouTube that was breaking this news - get real.

get it now?

this isn't about newspapers - I mean just look at them.. we know they're full of shit to a large extent, it's about what would actually happen if someone really had something as big as this to break and they had the stones and evidence behind it.

(because as most people looking at this ridiculous 'dying NASA scientist' horseplay know, it's a total joke and they laugh at how it suckers so many people who should know better - this was the subject of the OP was it not? What do I think of them, a load of shit basically that actually demeans a potentially very serious and interesting topic that may or may not have merit)

I don't think the dying NASA scientist videos are particularly credible, but they are interesting. They also provoke debate, which is a good thing in relation to what I agree is a worthwhile topic.

I wonder how a disclosure of prior contact would or could be made in today's world? Misinformation and media management is part of the everyday business of goverment and its hard to see how a complete volte face could be managed politically by any encumbent goverment.

 

[buzzer1]

this whole bit that Mammutly posted (not the whole subject) is idiocy.

ElanJo - if you had some reason to share something with the world and you had the real goods, don't you think you'd painstakingly carefully collate all your evidence (the proper stuff) and build it up, and then take your dossier over to the Washington Post or The Times, or CNN, and blow the lid off it conclusively this way? Aside from making yourself a decent bit of coin in the process with perhaps one of the hottest stories of living memory, OR do you think you'd sit at home and make a half-arsed piss-take video like this and post it YouTube?

if there was REAL evidence and REAL people had it, who wanted to expose it, THEN we'd bloody well hear about it one way or the other - think about it.

we wouldn't be talking about a friggin video on YouTube that was breaking this news - get real.

get it now?

this isn't about newspapers - I mean just look at them.. we know they're full of shit to a large extent, it's about what would actually happen if someone really had something as big as this to break and they had the stones and evidence behind it.

(because as most people looking at this ridiculous 'dying NASA scientist' horseplay know, it's a total joke and they laugh at how it suckers so many people who should know better - this was the subject of the OP was it not? What do I think of them, a load of shit basically that actually demeans a potentially very serious and interesting topic that may or may not have merit)

I don't think the dying NASA scientist videos are particularly credible, but they are interesting. They also provoke debate, which is a good thing in relation to what I agree is a worthwhile topic.

I wonder how a disclosure of prior contact would or could be made in today's world? Misinformation and media management is part of the everyday business of goverment and its hard to see how a complete volte face could be managed politically by any encumbent goverment.

Yes mate, and we have completely nothing to lose, but so so much to gain,surely. You imagine if one, yes just one of the sightings that have been reported for decades and decades were true, well i find that personally mind blowing myself and totally inspirational.

Now lets go one further and imagine that not only was ONE of the sightings real and true, but a whole bunch of stuff that is being kept from us being released and becoming a way of life, even to the point of the ETs being amongst us having been cross bred for years and there even being life say on the Moon and has been for years, imagine that mate?

Because if theres one thats true then how deep is the Rabbit hole? I say fkin bottomless and thats discounting the kranks of the evidence being filtered out. Just a thought.

 

[peacefrog]

Couldn't be arsed starting a new thread. And this is vaguely related so...

Get out and look at the night sky tonight, and see Jupiter. It directly opposite the the Sun from the Earth so is at its brightest, and is the brightest thing in the night sky, besides the moon, obviously. With an average pair of binoculars you can even see 4 pinpoints of light around it. These are Jupiter's moons, Ganymede, Callisto, Io and Europa.

 

[johnny on the spot]

Glad to see Buzzer back.

 

[MCFCinUSA]

Couldn't be arsed starting a new thread. And this is vaguely related so...

Get out and look at the night sky tonight, and see Jupiter. It directly opposite the the Sun from the Earth so is at its brightest, and is the brightest thing in the night sky, besides the moon, obviously. With an average pair of binoculars you can even see 4 pinpoints of light around it. These are Jupiter's moons, Ganymede, Callisto, Io and Europa.

cheers Frog, I was wondering what that was (as I was cuddled up next to some nursing student last week and we watched it tracking across the sky) - I was thinking it could have been Venus, but my night sky-gazing is usually only limited to Orion, a ahah

 

[peacefrog]

Couldn't be arsed starting a new thread. And this is vaguely related so...

Get out and look at the night sky tonight, and see Jupiter. It directly opposite the the Sun from the Earth so is at its brightest, and is the brightest thing in the night sky, besides the moon, obviously. With an average pair of binoculars you can even see 4 pinpoints of light around it. These are Jupiter's moons, Ganymede, Callisto, Io and Europa.

cheers Frog, I was wondering what that was (as I was cuddled up next to some nursing student last week and we watched it tracking across the sky) - I was thinking it could have been Venus, but my night sky-gazing is usually only limited to Orion, a ahah

I'm not really sure about what you'd see from the US, (I'm assuming that's where you are) But from the UK right now Venus is visible on the same side as the setting sun and doesn't get very high above the horizon and sets quite early in the evening. Jupiter Rises on the opposite side and even though is near the moon is still very bright.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

If we were 1% closer to the sun we would burn, 1% further away we would fereeze. Is it not beyond the realms of belief that there is only one set of these perfect conditions in the Universe? Otherwise you are saying the universe is repeated elsewhere which if it isnt in the area we have seen what makes people so sure it will be further a field.

Some things exist only in certain places on earth - why cant earth only occur in one place in the universe?

I think this post highlights the narrow mindedness perfectly. For a start, we already know of a planet very similar to Earth, but other lifeforms will probably not have to depend on the same things that the lifeforms on this planet do.

There's probably plenty of planets like Earth knocking about cionsidering the size of the universe