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Len Rum said:
cibaman said:
There was never the remotest possibility of the Tories hitting their debt target. They set the target simply to appear tougher than Labour. Alistair Darling set the scene by saying that Labour would halve the deficit over the course of the parliament. That was a very demanding target given the size of the deficit and the state of the world economy. Labour's problem was that they hadn't a cat in hell's chance of hitting the target as they hadn't identified the policies necessary to do so. It would have taken them at least two years of in fighting within the party to gain acceptance of the need to impose any cuts at all.

The Tories should have adopted Darling's target and fought the 2010 election on the basis that they would actually meet it. But they chose instead to set completely unrealistic targets which they've never seriously tried to achieve.

Much the same will happen at next year's election.
Hence the 'Con' in Conservative.

They're all has bad as each other.
 
bucks said:
Don't understand why the chancellor or Dave or someone can't drag the chief exec of Amazon in and say, " look pal, we now how many millions you make here. We know you have a tax weez going, but if you don't get back here with a fucking big cheque to cover what we think you really owe in the next 7 days, we are gonna pull the plug or scamble your fucking website and close down your fucking wharehouse, understand?"

This would be the look on the Chief Exec's face as he dropped that bombshell

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de niro said:
Rascal said:
de niro said:
100% with you on this. the thing is neither party lift a finger to close these loophopes. now that is the real disgrace.

Which is my whole point. We need our taxation take to rise. wonderful Dave thought he could make that happen by cutting 2000 tax inspector jobs...... hardworking civil servants with a sense of fairness.


Its so easy to blame the poor for today ills when the likes of Amazom earn a Billion in profit but pay no tax.

does my fruit in this.

you sound a bit like Lord Sugar and I bet if carpet empire went global you'd still be paying your tax's in full and wouldn't be tapping up SWPback for any advice on offshore accounts.
 
Mike D said:
de niro said:
Rascal said:
Which is my whole point. We need our taxation take to rise. wonderful Dave thought he could make that happen by cutting 2000 tax inspector jobs...... hardworking civil servants with a sense of fairness.


Its so easy to blame the poor for today ills when the likes of Amazom earn a Billion in profit but pay no tax.

does my fruit in this.

you sound a bit like Lord Sugar and I bet if carpet empire went global you'd still be paying your tax's in full and wouldn't be tapping up SWPback for any advice on offshore accounts.
He would if he was living in France.
 
de niro said:
Ancient Citizen said:
Mike D said:
you sound a bit like Lord Sugar and I bet if carpet empire went global you'd still be paying your tax's in full and wouldn't be tapping up SWPback for any advice on offshore accounts.
He would if he was living in France.

i'd be in tuscany.

If the Dave you love wins the next election it will be more like Trafford
 
Regardless of the 'Flat Earth Society' members on here the UK economy continues to go from strength to strength.
It really is very good news.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2615425/UK-economy-fifth-biggest-world-year-banker-says.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -says.html</a>

'Britain is on course to overtake France and become the fifth biggest economy in the world, according to a former Bank of England official.
Andrew Sentance, who is now senior economic adviser at PricewaterhouseCoopers, said the UK could leapfrog France by the end of the year as the recovery picks up pace.

The prediction came as a report by rival accountancy firm Grant Thornton showed business confidence is at its highest level for more than 20 years.
The survey found 83 per cent of senior executives in the UK were optimistic about the future - up from 71 per cent at the end of last year, and the highest score since records began in 1992.

In a further boost to Chancellor George Osborne, who has staked his political reputation on the recovery, official figures are today (TUES) expected to show the economy grew strongly in the first three months of 2014.

The Bank of England believes gross domestic product (GDP) - the total size of the economy - grew by 1 per cent in the first quarter, and expects the second quarter 'to be only a little weaker'.
The last time the economy grew by around 1 per cent for two quarters in a row was in mid-2007 before the meltdown at Northern Rock.

Meanwhile, the pound surged to as much as $1.6856 yesterday - its strongest reading against the US dollar since 2009 - as the brightening outlook pushed the currency higher.

Harry Adams, managing director of currency trading firm Argentex, said: 'There is a simple explanation for the pound's appreciation and that is the UK economy is exceeding nearly every economist's expectation.'
Mr Sentance said that the UK economy is currently the sixth largest in the world but will overtake France 'in the next couple of years' based on forecasts by the International Monetary Fund.

But he added that it could happen even sooner given the pace of the recovery in the UK and the weakness of the French economy.

'The UK economy now appears set to regain the position it enjoyed in world economic rankings before the financial crisis - fifth place behind the US, China, Japan and Germany,' said Mr Sentence, who sat on the Bank's interest rates setting monetary policy committee from 2006 to 2011.

'All these economies have bigger populations than us - so fifth place in the world will be as good as it gets for Britain in the modern global economy.

'With the French economy struggling, and the pound appreciating against the euro, the UK should resume its fifth position soon, quite possibly by the end of this year. That should be a cause for national celebration.'

The growth spurt means that the economy is just weeks away from clawing back all the losses made during the what the IMF has called the Great Recession. GDP crashed 7.2 per cent in 2008 and 2009 and was still 1.4 per cent smaller than the pre-recession peak at the end of last year.

Simon Kirby, an economist at the National Institute of Economic and Social Research, said most of the remaining lost ground has now been made up.

'I think GDP will surpass its pre-recession peak at some point in the next few months,' he said.

Scott Barnes, chief executive of Grant Thornton, said business optimism 'has continued to bound ahead' in recent months in a sign 'the recovery is moving onto a more sustainable footing'.

He said: 'It's immensely encouraging that the data for the UK has broken its previous record high for business optimism and provides strong hope that the recovery is truly taking hold.

'Mirroring the uptick in optimism across other parts of the world - particularly the US, China, Japan and Germany - suggests the major global economies are back on track and headed in the right direction which bodes well for British exporters.'

The CBI last week reported that confidence among British manufacturers was at its highest level since 1973.

Katja Hall, chief policy director at the CBI, said: 'Confidence is rapidly rising among British manufacturers, with a real sense of business optimism. Our industrial base is seizing a bigger role in the UK's economic recovery, with output, orders and hiring all on the up.

'There are still bumps in the road ahead. However, expectations for growth in the coming three months are positive and manufacturers plan to significantly ramp up investment in the year ahead.'
 
TGR said:
Regardless of the 'Flat Earth Society' members on here the UK economy continues to go from strength to strength.
It really is very good news.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2615425/UK-economy-fifth-biggest-world-year-banker-says.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -says.html</a>
Ah yes. That well respected economics journal, The Daily Mail.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
TGR said:
Regardless of the 'Flat Earth Society' members on here the UK economy continues to go from strength to strength.
It really is very good news.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2615425/UK-economy-fifth-biggest-world-year-banker-says.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -says.html</a>
Ah yes. That well respected economics journal, The Daily Mail.

Don't shoot the messenger PB.
It's the content that is important. The UK economy is on the up and is outperforming the vast majority of other western european economies
with the notable exception of Germany (which is starting to falter).
It really is good news.
 
TGR said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
TGR said:
Regardless of the 'Flat Earth Society' members on here the UK economy continues to go from strength to strength.
It really is very good news.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2615425/UK-economy-fifth-biggest-world-year-banker-says.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -says.html</a>
Ah yes. That well respected economics journal, The Daily Mail.

Don't shoot the messenger PB.
It's the content that is important. The UK economy is on the up and is outperforming the vast majority of other western european economies
with the notable exception of Germany (which is starting to falter).
It really is good news.
A six month old report by a Tory supporting paper, why not post the latest update which says much the same thing which is that the French and UK economies have always been about neck and neck but with the latest euro zone figures for growth we are likely to overtake France. For all the talk of rapid growth in the UK if you compare us with France, the so called sick man of Europe, our recessions are about equal in terms of lost GDP.
 
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