the economy.

[SWP's back]

Which is exactly what the Yanks wanted after the war, when they picked up on a discredited idea and started pouring money into the project via the CIA. And that's all in the State Department archives.

Plus about a year before the referendum, the so-called five presidents (the heads of the main EU bodies) published their vision for the next stage of the EU. And you'll never guess what that involved...

Cheeky fuckers.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Cheeky fuckers.

Is that the X-rated version of the Cheeky Girls?

 

[I'm With Stupid]

A few things:

1) you're argument is that you'll pay more tax next year than you do now. That's not correct.
2) it would be unusual to pay more tax when "public services are being slashed" is taken into account but given a salary of £24,000 you're paying over £1,100 less tax than you were under the previous government and that amount has decreased ever year for nearly a decade (mainly thanks to increased personal allowances)
3) you're paying a de facto level of tax of 19.14% (NHI accounting for over 1/3rd of that), not 33% based on your figure of £24,000 and get the same services as those paying nearly 50% for it.
4) you were implying those that earn more are paying less than they were but based on £1,000,000 gross per year, those tax payers are now paying around £55,000 more in tax than they were back when we had a Labour government.

Which website did you use to give that wrong impression?

The one that you linked to last.

As I said, I don't live in the UK. I pay 33% of my salary in tax. And ironically, am still better off than I'd be in the UK doing the same job. £24k was just an idea of what I might expect to earn if I came back to the UK.

 

[SWP's back]

The one that you linked to last.

As I said, I don't live in the UK. I pay 33% of my salary in tax. And ironically, am still better off than I'd be in the UK doing the same job. £24k was just an idea of what I might expect to earn if I came back to the UK.

How are you better off whilst paying 33% tax than doing the same job job out of interest?

 

[Dextersmate]

How are you better off whilst paying 33% tax than doing the same job job out of interest?

Larger salary probably?

 

[aguero93:20]

How are you better off whilst paying 33% tax than doing the same job job out of interest?

His gross is a minimum of the equivalent to £29,251 presumably.

 

[Len Rum]

You've got that the wrong way around mate. I've just checked.

Take home for 2016/17 will be £19,489 from a salary of £24,000

Take home for 2015/16 would have been £19,407 from The same salary.

For 2013/14, the take home on that amount was £19,137

For 2012/13 the figure was only £18,851

For 2011/11 less again at £18,681

And the last year Labour were in power for a year at 2008/09 young have only taken home £18,363

So I'm not sure where you went wrong.

But lower wage earners are paying a lot less than they were, not more as you seem to think.

This isn't going to please the lefties though though it will please people that earn £24,000 as they are £1,126 better off now then they were under Brown et al in 2009 in terms of take home pay.

---------check for yourself---------

http://tools.hmrc.gov.uk/hmrctaxcalculator/screen/Personal+Tax+Calculator/en-GB/summary?user=guest - 2016/17 calculator
http://www.itcontracting.com/calculators/dividend-tax-calculator-2015-16/ - 2015/16 calculator

Or try this one if you want to easily check every tax year for the last decade (I found this link last annoyingly but it agrees with the other two above) - https://listentotaxman.com/24000?yr=2016

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Just for fun I also looked at how much tax you paid in 2008/09 under Labour and how much tax you pay in 2016/17 under the Tories on £1,000,000 per year:

Tax paid in 2008/09 is £404,034

Tax paid in 2016/17 is £459,433

Kinda shits all over your argument really doesn't it. Lower earnings are far better off now and higher earners are paying more tax than they were. Bluemoon should traditionally love that idea. Though personally I'd brick and torch any cunts wanting to take nearly half my hard earned off me.

LOL
Lower taxes and lower borrowing under Labour, who'd 'a thunk it!
PS don't mention the global financial crash or the 50p top tax rate introduced in the final year of the Labour Government for incomes greater than 150k, kinda makes 2010/11 to 2016/7 comparisons look slightly different for £1M earners.
Great tax calculator site though.

 

[SWP's back]

His gross is a minimum of the equivalent to £29,251 presumably.

Well yes obviously, I'm simply asking what he does that is so valued in a higher tax paying country compared with the U.K.

 

[aguero93:20]

Well yes obviously, I'm simply asking what he does that is so valued in a higher tax paying country compared with the U.K.

I didn't mean exchange rate equivalent, he could have emigrated to a country with a far lower cost of living. Or he could be working in a sector that's depressed in the UK but booming where he is.

 

[SWP's back]

LOL
Lower taxes and lower borrowing under Labour, who'd 'a thunk it!
PS don't mention the global financial crash or the 50p top tax rate introduced in the final year of the Labour Government for incomes greater than 150k, kinda makes 2010/11 to 2016/7 comparisons look slightly different for £1M earners.
Great tax calculator site though.

What's so funny but Oh dear, here we go:

1) you're not arguing with my figures (I'd have thought a simple "well done swp for a very in depth and comprehensive apresal on various tax year's income amounts" was the least you could have managed).
2) do you think the lower wage earners were better off in 2006/07 before the crash (crash starting in 2007, crescendoing in 2008 and continuing through 2009)?
3) you'd think the 50p rate of tax would mean higher wage earners paid more in 2008/09 & 2010/11 than in 2016/17 no? You getting confused old buddy of mine? They pay more now than they ever did under Labour, 50p tax rate or not (mainly as they don't get the same allowances), you knew that right?
4) Lower total borrowing, higher deficit, do you want me to explain the whole debt/deficit thing again for a 50th time? It's just at some point you will either understand it or I really should start charging you $1,000 an hour to repeat myself.
5) tax is theft, commie.
6) do you disagree that wage earners of £1m plus are worse off now then they were under Labour? If so, back it up with figures and sources and vice versa, do you agree or disagree that those earning under national mean average wage pay less tax now than they did under Labour?