The end of the Conservative Party?

[Xhavenjoe]

Wrexham striker Paul Mullin will not wear his controversial new boots which featured an X-rated message for the Conservatives.

The 11-goal forward had posted an image on Instagram of the boots, with 'f*** the Tories' printed on the side of them.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Are centrists more likely to win power?

Seems a bit of a myth.

Where are the Liberal Democrats?

The party closest to the centre generally wins, doesn’t it?

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

The party closest to the centre generally wins, doesn’t it?

No. It is a myth.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

No. It is a myth.

When was it last not the case?

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

When was it last not the case?

So you think Boris Johnson was closest to the centre? With his culture wars and bollocks?

Or Margaret Thatcher was closer to the centre than Neil Kinnock?

Or call me Dave vs Gordon Brown?

It’s a trap, and it based on a false premise.

The party that sticks to centre courts the most voters, wins the election. It is as simple as that.

If it was true why have the Liberal Democrats been a fringe party for 7 years?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

So you think Boris Johnson was closest to the centre? With his culture wars and bollocks?

Or Margaret Thatcher was closer to the centre than Neil Kinnock?

Or call me Dave vs Gordon Brown?

It’s a trap, and it based on a false premise.

The party that sticks to centre courts the most voters, wins the election. It is as simple as that.

If it was true why have the Liberal Democrats been a fringe party for 7 years?

Boris is closer to the centre than Corbyn. His colleagues aren’t.

Cameron was vs Brown too.

Thatcher vs Kinnock, neither were particularly close to the centre, but I was young and have only looked back on that one, rather than experienced it.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

There is a permanent negative outlook on politicians and sometimes just being decent and middel of the road is not enough. Some people will vote for any old bollocks if they think it might change their life. Boris was the type to capture that sort of spirit, as was Trump. In retrospect those types generally make thinks worse. Recent example being Liz Truss. Rishy is a very unknown quantity as he seems to pragmatic to go down the any old bollocks approach. But tory mandate and policy agenda is full of bollocks so something will have to give.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Boris is closer to the centre than Corbyn. His colleagues aren’t.

Cameron was vs Brown too.

Thatcher vs Kinnock, neither were particularly close to the centre, but I was young and have only looked back on that one, rather than experienced it.

So his platform of racism and bollocks was closest to the centre?

Closer than...?



The majority of the general public don't pick parties because of policies they go to narratives.

Get brexit done was a better narrative than the others, but it wasn't centrist.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

So his platform of racism and bollocks was closest to the centre?

Closer than...?



The majority of the general public don't pick parties because of policies they go to narratives.

Get brexit done was a better narrative than the others, but it wasn't centrist.

One could argue that the last election was more of a Brexit referendum than about other policies.

Racism was a concern in both parties iirc

Talking bollocks is rife in all political parties.

The Liberal Democrats are irrelevant.

I could stand as The Centralist Party and have the most central views as possible. I wouldn’t be likely to win, but at least you could use me as an example! ;-)

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

One could argue that the last election was more of a Brexit referendum than about other policies.

Racism was a concern in both parties iirc

Talking bollocks is rife in all political parties.

The Liberal Democrats are irrelevant.

I could stand as The Centralist Party and have the most central views as possible. I wouldn’t be likely to win, but at least you could use me as an example! ;-)

Exaggerated, or to be more accurate, mostly invented antisemitism isn't the same as actual racist policies and rhetoric.

The floating voter is no more a centrist than the average consumer is well informed and making rational choices in the products and services they buy.