The General Election Thread

[JoeMercer'sWay]

beaker really is a terrible orator he just sounds over coached

I said this earlier in the thread.

He doesn't sound like how people talk, he sounds like how people are supposed to talk in your head. It isn't the same thing and all of his movements seem very calculated. Obviously not on the only one but he shines through with his inability to hide it properly.

mmm...it's what I think Clegg does well actually.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

It's viewed by the majority that at the end of their term in government the country was in a financial mess so it would've been informative if Milliband had addressed the issues concerned and explained how a labour government this time round had learnt from the economic disaster they left the Tories to sort out and how and why it would be a different story

Without this explanation I can't for the life of me understand how anyone can consider to give them the opportunity to do it all again

What Labour should have done years ago is explain strongly that the financial crisis had little to do with them. It was a global crisis not caused by Labour. Every country suffered from it. The spending of Labour wasn't any different to what had gone before or different to many other countries.

A strong narrative however has taken place that it was all Labour's fault and as they've done nothing to disprove this over the last 5 years Miliband looked very silly and weak last night trying to argue against it.

The 'Crash' was there for everyone to see. I predicted a worldwide meltdown back in 2005. A mate was telling me about this self cert mortgage he was getting. He also told me that he had 50k of available credit on cards. It honestly blew me away and my exact words to him were,"Fuck me, the whole world must be in hock! God forbid the day it all gets called in"
Now then, if I could see it then surely we've the right to expect the government of the time to? Red yellow or blue it don't matter. Some fucker took their eye off the ball.

 

[whp.blue]

This is absoutely not true, trying to run a national economy in the way that a business is run would be a disaster, just as trying to run a business the way a national economy is run would be. Apples and oranges. And Britain was no where near going bankrupt in 2008, that is pure hyperbole.

The way I run my Companies is based on one of the great world leaders

Pol Pot may not have been perfect but he knew how to control the workers

You don't run a company like a democracy.

I certainly don't run either of mine like a democracy that's for sure!

 

[whp.blue]

beaker really is a terrible orator he just sounds over coached

I said this earlier in the thread.

He doesn't sound like how people talk, he sounds like how people are supposed to talk in your head. It isn't the same thing and all of his movements seem very calculated. Obviously not on the only one but he shines through with his inability to hide it properly.

I believe it is because he seems not only to be coached how to speak but also he it appears he is coached on every body movement and as a consequence he just comes across as just somehow wrong and weird.

I can't explain it any better than that just not natural.

Mind you Rascal will have a hard on for him as he used the S word "Socialism" first and perhaps the only time anyone will in this Election.

 

[Ducado]

There is talk that in Scotland many Tory and Lib Dems and planning to vote tactically to keep the SNP out, one for you betting people to take into account before placing your bets

 

[urmston]

Former Labour MP convicted of assaulting children.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/01/eric-joyce-found-guilty-of-assaulting-two-boys-in-north-london-shop-mp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... on-shop-mp</a>

 

[Ducado]

Former Labour MP convicted of assaulting children.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/01/eric-joyce-found-guilty-of-assaulting-two-boys-in-north-london-shop-mp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... on-shop-mp</a>

Not sure how that is relevant to the debate, in fact it is wholly irrelevant

 

[blue cigar]

There is talk that in Scotland many Tory and Lib Dems and planning to vote tactically to keep the SNP out, one for you betting people to take into account before placing your bets

They are but it wont matter. The porridge fuckers will vote snp but it wont matter,ed told them to get fucked and they cant do anything about it. Strong leadership from ed,theres more to leadership than banging your fists on a lecturn and rolling your shirt sleaves up.

 

[Bill]

Former Labour MP convicted of assaulting children.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/01/eric-joyce-found-guilty-of-assaulting-two-boys-in-north-london-shop-mp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... on-shop-mp</a>

Not sure how that is relevant to the debate, in fact it is wholly irrelevant

agreed.

 

[whp.blue]

Former Labour MP convicted of assaulting children.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/01/eric-joyce-found-guilty-of-assaulting-two-boys-in-north-london-shop-mp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... on-shop-mp</a>

Not sure how that is relevant to the debate, in fact it is wholly irrelevant

Alcoholic punches two teenagers
I have been accussed of being slightly right wing and even I can't see any relevance in him being an ex labour MP

 

[urmston]

Former Labour MP convicted of assaulting children.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/01/eric-joyce-found-guilty-of-assaulting-two-boys-in-north-london-shop-mp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... on-shop-mp</a>

Not sure how that is relevant to the debate, in fact it is wholly irrelevant

He was elected as a Labour MP at the last election, continued as an MP until a few days ago and has just been convicted of assaulting children.

 

[Damocles]

Former Labour MP convicted of assaulting children.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/01/eric-joyce-found-guilty-of-assaulting-two-boys-in-north-london-shop-mp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... on-shop-mp</a>

Former Labour but now Independent MP Eric Joyce, former member of the Black Watch and Major in the Armed Forces who has a Judo background, restrained two teeangers in a shop whilst making a Citizens Arrest. He was later judged to have committed assault against them as part of this due to unnecessary force.

I know you like to play party politics but at least have the integrity to post the actual facts and content.

 

[Chancy Termites]

Labour’s candidate for Wellingborough and Rushden Richard Garvie suspended after conviction for fraud

<a class="postlink" href="http://m.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/local/labour-s-candidate-for-wellingborough-and-rushden-richard-garvie-suspended-after-conviction-for-fraud-1-6719687" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://m.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/lo ... -1-6719687</a>

 

[Len Rum]

Labour’s candidate for Wellingborough and Rushden Richard Garvie suspended after conviction for fraud

<a class="postlink" href="http://m.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/local/labour-s-candidate-for-wellingborough-and-rushden-richard-garvie-suspended-after-conviction-for-fraud-1-6719687" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://m.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/lo ... -1-6719687</a>

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[Ronnie the Rep]

Labour’s candidate for Wellingborough and Rushden Richard Garvie suspended after conviction for fraud

<a class="postlink" href="http://m.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/local/labour-s-candidate-for-wellingborough-and-rushden-richard-garvie-suspended-after-conviction-for-fraud-1-6719687" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://m.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/lo ... -1-6719687</a>

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As a Tory boy, I revel in labour MP's being found out.


Only kidding Len, the reality is that they are all human and all c***s

 

[Chancy Termites]

Labour’s candidate for Wellingborough and Rushden Richard Garvie suspended after conviction for fraud

<a class="postlink" href="http://m.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/local/labour-s-candidate-for-wellingborough-and-rushden-richard-garvie-suspended-after-conviction-for-fraud-1-6719687" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://m.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/lo ... -1-6719687</a>

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Imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth if it had been a UKIP candidate. Now look at the absence of mainstream coverage as it's a Lapaedobour candidate.

 

[urmston]

Former Labour MP convicted of assaulting children.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/01/eric-joyce-found-guilty-of-assaulting-two-boys-in-north-london-shop-mp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... on-shop-mp</a>

Former Labour but now Independent MP Eric Joyce, former member of the Black Watch and Major in the Armed Forces who has a Judo background, restrained two teeangers in a shop whilst making a Citizens Arrest. He was later judged to have committed assault against them as part of this due to unnecessary force.

I know you like to play party politics but at least have the integrity to post the actual facts and content.

I did.

A person elected as a Labour MP in 2010 has been convicted of assaulting children.

 

[Damocles]

Former Labour MP convicted of assaulting children.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/01/eric-joyce-found-guilty-of-assaulting-two-boys-in-north-london-shop-mp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... on-shop-mp</a>

Former Labour but now Independent MP Eric Joyce, former member of the Black Watch and Major in the Armed Forces who has a Judo background, restrained two teeangers in a shop whilst making a Citizens Arrest. He was later judged to have committed assault against them as part of this due to unnecessary force.

I know you like to play party politics but at least have the integrity to post the actual facts and content.

I did.

A person elected as a Labour MP in 2010 has been convicted of assaulting children.

Do you feel that that stands alone as a statement and needs no further context?

 

[urmston]

Former Labour but now Independent MP Eric Joyce, former member of the Black Watch and Major in the Armed Forces who has a Judo background, restrained two teeangers in a shop whilst making a Citizens Arrest. He was later judged to have committed assault against them as part of this due to unnecessary force.

I know you like to play party politics but at least have the integrity to post the actual facts and content.

I did.

A person elected as a Labour MP in 2010 has been convicted of assaulting children.

Do you feel that that stands alone as a statement and needs no further context?

I leave the context to others.

The facts are there for us all to consider.

 

[Balti]

you can only point out illegal/ unethical/ racist/ hypocritical behaviour by politicians if they are UKIP or Tory

come on now you know the rules....