The General Election Thread

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TGR said:
Gabriel said:
The problem is that whatever recovery is being made, it is probably not visible to everyone and certainly not tangible. Moreover, the interconnectedness of the global economy means that whatever recovery the UK is seeing is so precarious and so susceptible to events elsewhere that progress can all too easily become undone.

How can the biggest fall in unemployment since records began not be visible?
lies damn lies and statistics, largely down to zero hours minimum wage topped up by tax payers money and IDS's slave labour project
and that's before we get started on the sell off of OUR NHS
 
TGR said:
Gabriel said:
The problem is that whatever recovery is being made, it is probably not visible to everyone and certainly not tangible. Moreover, the interconnectedness of the global economy means that whatever recovery the UK is seeing is so precarious and so susceptible to events elsewhere that progress can all too easily become undone.

How can the biggest fall in unemployment since records began not be visible?

They've changed the definition of unemployment.

It's how Labour made a shit load of gains in the late 90s too in the justice system, by reclassifying certain crimes.
 
Gabriel said:
TGR said:
cibaman said:
I think it's very unlikely that ukip will get more than 6 or 7 seats, their votes will be spread too thinly. The snp could pick up a dozen or so seats.

The lib dems will probably see their share of the popular vote slashed. But they will still end up with about 30 seats, easily in third place.

I expect it will be a hung parliament but without either of labour or the Tories able to form a coalition with one other party. It will be a minority government limping on for a year before the next election

I think you seriously under estimate both the SNP and UKIP.
They both have momentum and are very dangerous to the established political parties.
Fun times!

Think Rochester and Strood could be a turning point for UKIP. If it manages to take that seat, with the Conservatives throwing everything into the fray, then there is every likelihood that it will do better in May than some imagine.

I still think ukip will crack under the rigours of a general election campaign. They will not be able to get away with talking just about the eu and immigration. Their economic policy will be shown to inchorent. And when they have to put up spokesmen other than forage they will contradict each other and the nutters in the party will make gaffe after gaffe
 
cibaman said:
Gabriel said:
TGR said:
I think you seriously under estimate both the SNP and UKIP.
They both have momentum and are very dangerous to the established political parties.
Fun times!

Think Rochester and Strood could be a turning point for UKIP. If it manages to take that seat, with the Conservatives throwing everything into the fray, then there is every likelihood that it will do better in May than some imagine.

I still think ukip will crack under the rigours of a general election campaign. They will not be able to get away with talking just about the eu and immigration. Their economic policy will be shown to inchorent. And when they have to put up spokesmen other than forage they will contradict each other and the nutters in the party will make gaffe after gaffe

Farage's biggest problem is that a lot of the members of the party are pretty useless, i watched question time on thursday and the ukip rep on there was totally out of her depth
 
bluemanc said:
Cons and Labs are not fit to Govern and the people have made that crystal clear.
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Yet in todays poll 66% plan to vote for those two parties.
 
cibaman said:
Gabriel said:
TGR said:
I think you seriously under estimate both the SNP and UKIP.
They both have momentum and are very dangerous to the established political parties.
Fun times!

Think Rochester and Strood could be a turning point for UKIP. If it manages to take that seat, with the Conservatives throwing everything into the fray, then there is every likelihood that it will do better in May than some imagine.

I still think ukip will crack under the rigours of a general election campaign. They will not be able to get away with talking just about the eu and immigration. Their economic policy will be shown to inchorent. And when they have to put up spokesmen other than forage they will contradict each other and the nutters in the party will make gaffe after gaffe

Quite likely, yet by then it could have Farage, Reckless, and Carswell, who is quite effective, speaking as one, so more voices to call upon, and should a Labour MP defect after R&S, then things could become particularly spicy. There is also the likelihood that in the demands of a General Election campaign, one where all parties are under unprecedented pressure, that UKIP may bluff its way farther yet.
 
Very bad headlines for Labour today with regards to a poll in Scotland. If the results of the poll hold for the General Election, then Labour could lose 37 seats in Scotland, and probably couldn't govern without those seats. Ed needs to sort it out.
 
Ed has said they're going to abolish the House of Lords and replace it with an elected chamber. I'm sure this was threatened a good few years ago. I'm not so sure that it's a policy that the electorate are that bothered about - maybe the Lefties will be up for it, but is that the vote he should be chasing? Or is it an attempt to stop the rot in Scotland, where he's losing a lot of support?

Oh, and the electorate are that enthused by our politicians that they'll definitely be up for another round of voting!
 
malg said:
Very bad headlines for Labour today with regards to a poll in Scotland. If the results of the poll hold for the General Election, then Labour could lose 37 seats in Scotland, and probably couldn't govern without those seats. Ed needs to sort it out.

It would certainly give the SNP plenty of clout in Westminster. Its quite possible that we'll end up with a minority government where its not possible for either Labour or the Conservatives to form a coalition with just the Lib Dems.Would the SNP support a Labour government when they've just taken most of their seats in Scotland?
 
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