The General Election Thread

[whp.blue]

Its your opinion, i don't agree with it but I'd defend you're right to it. Calling someone 'an obnoxious c***' is a bit naughty but I didn't complain. I'm still waiting a reply on my point yesterday.

Strange concept waiting for mods to explain themselves

you cvnt

You forgot the obnoxious bit ;0)

apologies only thought we only got the nod for the plain Cvnt salutation

 

[SWP's back]

I'm sure they will be fair.

But it does make me laugh when some people say the left are in the minority in here when all the mods except de niro are left at this election.

To be fair though, they, mainly, keep their personal feelings out of mod decisions.

Nobody suggests the mods are right wing, only that the majority of the regular posters on political threads in the Cellar are.

We should do a head count.

I think the left are in the majority.

 

[Paulpowersleftfoot]

I'm sure they will be fair.

But it does make me laugh when some people say the left are in the minority in here when all the mods except de niro are left at this election.

To be fair though, they, mainly, keep their personal feelings out of mod decisions.

Nobody suggests the mods are right wing, only that the majority of the regular posters on political threads in the Cellar are.

Better known as the enlightened

 

[SWP's back]

Strange concept waiting for mods to explain themselves

you cvnt

You forgot the obnoxious bit ;0)

apologies only thought we only got the nod for the plain Cvnt salutation

It's a grown up forum. You can say ****

 

[urmston]

We should have a referendum about PR.

Oh, sorry, is that trolling?

I know some very influential people don't like referendums and are sick to the back teeth of patiently explaining why they are a bad thing.

 

[Lucky13]

Clear choice in this Election , job creation and lower taxation or higher taxes and higher unemployment .

 

[Johnsonontheleft]

The problem with PR is that it can allow extremist parties to get a foothold. Whether you believe this is true democracy or not is immaterial. Take UKIP as an example - in FPTP they will end up with 1-2 seats. With PR they are the 3rd largest party. The nature of PR means weak government as large rival parties can't reach agreement and we have in effect a never-ending 'hung parliament'. Hitler capitalised on this weakness and offered strong leadership in a climate that is not without it's similarities to today's political and economic climate in Europe.

Damocles, I'm sure you will want to have the last word on this as you usually do, and I shall bow to your superior knowledge of Hitler's rise to power - I've clearly spent too much time reading Kershaw when I should have been listening to the same podcasts as you.

 

[malg]

Clear choice in this Election , job creation and lower taxation or higher taxes and higher unemployment .

Too cryptic for me fella. Can you not just tell me who to vote for?

 

[Ducado]

I'm sure they will be fair.

But it does make me laugh when some people say the left are in the minority in here when all the mods except de niro are left at this election.

To be fair though, they, mainly, keep their personal feelings out of mod decisions.

Nobody suggests the mods are right wing, only that the majority of the regular posters on political threads in the Cellar are.

I am more to the centre than anything, which is just like me reasonable and fair

 

[malg]

The problem with PR is that it can allow extremist parties to get a foothold. Whether you believe this is true democracy or not is immaterial. Take UKIP as an example - in FPTP they will end up with 1-2 seats. With PR they are the 3rd largest party. The nature of PR means weak government as large rival parties can't reach agreement and we have in effect a never-ending 'hung parliament'. Hitler capitalised on this weakness and offered strong leadership in a climate that is not without it's similarities to today's political and economic climate in Europe.

Damocles, I'm sure you will want to have the last word on this as you usually do, and I shall bow to your superior knowledge of Hitler's rise to power - I've clearly spent too much time reading Kershaw when I should have been listening to the same podcasts as you.

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[Lucky13]

Clear choice in this Election , job creation and lower taxation or higher taxes and higher unemployment .

Too cryptic for me fella. Can you not just tell me who to vote for?

I would never be so bold.

 

[SWP's back]

The problem with PR is that it can allow extremist parties to get a foothold. Whether you believe this is true democracy or not is immaterial. Take UKIP as an example - in FPTP they will end up with 1-2 seats. With PR they are the 3rd largest party. The nature of PR means weak government as large rival parties can't reach agreement and we have in effect a never-ending 'hung parliament'. Hitler capitalised on this weakness and offered strong leadership in a climate that is not without it's similarities to today's political and economic climate in Europe.

Damocles, I'm sure you will want to have the last word on this as you usually do, and I shall bow to your superior knowledge of Hitler's rise to power - I've clearly spent too much time reading Kershaw when I should have been listening to the same podcasts as you.

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What the fuck does Nik Kershaw know about Hitler anyway?

 

[cibaman]

I'm sure they will be fair.

But it does make me laugh when some people say the left are in the minority in here when all the mods except de niro are left at this election.

To be fair though, they, mainly, keep their personal feelings out of mod decisions.

Nobody suggests the mods are right wing, only that the majority of the regular posters on political threads in the Cellar are.

We should do a head count.

I think the left are in the majority.

Would anyone vote truthfully?

 

[DelToro]

I'm sure they will be fair.

But it does make me laugh when some people say the left are in the minority in here when all the mods except de niro are left at this election.

To be fair though, they, mainly, keep their personal feelings out of mod decisions.

Nobody suggests the mods are right wing, only that the majority of the regular posters on political threads in the Cellar are.

I am more to the centre than anything, which is just like me reasonable and fair

No way.

I am Lib Dem and the majority of your political posts are way to the right of me.

 

[Ducado]

Nobody suggests the mods are right wing, only that the majority of the regular posters on political threads in the Cellar are.

I am more to the centre than anything, which is just like me reasonable and fair

No way.

I am Lib Dem and the majority of your political posts are way to the right of me.

I don't beleive the Lib Dems are particularly to the centre nowadays in many respects they are to the left of Labour

 

[BlueHammer85]

Just glad the campaign is finally over, the dullest in my memory. Just the same things being said by the same people every day. However I expect the results tomorrow night and the ensuing drama over the next few weeks will be the best in election history.

I disagree and how found myself warming to all leaders in this run up -

Farage who I'm against principally is a great character and leader - it's just a shame UKIP attract so many tosspots as he has genuine and sometimes correct concerns about the number of people coming into Britain, he is right that the EU is a sham at times - however I'd rather a party that would strive to make the EU fairer not completly come out of it for mainly the sake of nationalistic pride.

Natalie Bennet has been embarrising at times in live debates but she has heart of gold and wants to help the most disadvantaged in our society, get rid of trident and treat immigrants as humans not numbers! I'm personally not to fussed about the enviorment if I'm being honest. However , are they realistically going to be ever to run a economy on these principales ? I don't think so ,but the Greens appeal a lot to me

Ed Miliband - before the campaign I thought he was a disaster for Labour but he's proved he isn't , the personal crap thrown at him is pathetic and he handles all that really well - seems genuine about clamping down on richest that get away with tax avoidance and other loop holes , same for higher corporations - I hope he would carry this out. I trust them to help the most vunrable and poorest and protect the NHS.

Nicola Sturgeon - well she has been impressive and wants what's best for Scotland and who can blame her or the scots for voting SNP. hope they do ok

David Cameron - brilliant orator and speaker and looks the part as a priminister - The Tories have done a lot of good I feel with the economy and have had to make tough cuts to achieve this - they have not been a disaster, far from it. But do they come down hard enough on the richest and elite ? Or do they target the poorest more - which there is genuine grounds to do so - many people live off benefits as a lifestyle and many people come here for that reason - no one should abuse the system but until the stories show they are cracking down at those at the top then I will jump on the bandwagon to clamp down on those that abuse the system.

Nick Clegg - I like him. He's a decent guy. He's U-turn on tuition fees may never be forgiven and rightly so, however I feel the Lib Dems have played there part in this coalition and I warm to his point that he would give Tories a heart and labour a brain. That appeals to me the most and for that reason I have voted Lib Dem.

 

[whp.blue]

I'm sure they will be fair.

But it does make me laugh when some people say the left are in the minority in here when all the mods except de niro are left at this election.

To be fair though, they, mainly, keep their personal feelings out of mod decisions.

Nobody suggests the mods are right wing, only that the majority of the regular posters on political threads in the Cellar are.

We should do a head count.

I think the left are in the majority.

that left wing mod who sells carpet tiles isn't that bad as mods go

 

[DelToro]

I am more to the centre than anything, which is just like me reasonable and fair

No way.

I am Lib Dem and the majority of your political posts are way to the right of me.

I don't beleive the Lib Dems are particularly to the centre nowadays in many respects they are to the left of Labour

Really?

Please identify 3 major Lib Dem policies that are to the left of Labour's equivalent policies please.

 

[Damocles]

The problem with PR is that it can allow extremist parties to get a foothold. Whether you believe this is true democracy or not is immaterial. Take UKIP as an example - in FPTP they will end up with 1-2 seats. With PR they are the 3rd largest party. The nature of PR means weak government as large rival parties can't reach agreement and we have in effect a never-ending 'hung parliament'. Hitler capitalised on this weakness and offered strong leadership in a climate that is not without it's similarities to today's political and economic climate in Europe.

Damocles, I'm sure you will want to have the last word on this as you usually do, and I shall bow to your superior knowledge of Hitler's rise to power - I've clearly spent too much time reading Kershaw when I should have been listening to the same podcasts as you.

Obviously. Kershaw is a regular guest on a variety of history programmes, having worked with the BBC numerous times. Personally I prefer Richard J. Evans and his stuff on the Weimar Republic/the rise of the Nazis.

But he's only the Professor of Modern History at Cambridge University. I'm sure your third class degree from Moston Community College in 1983 is just as handy a reference guide.

 

[whp.blue]

The problem with PR is that it can allow extremist parties to get a foothold. Whether you believe this is true democracy or not is immaterial. Take UKIP as an example - in FPTP they will end up with 1-2 seats. With PR they are the 3rd largest party. The nature of PR means weak government as large rival parties can't reach agreement and we have in effect a never-ending 'hung parliament'. Hitler capitalised on this weakness and offered strong leadership in a climate that is not without it's similarities to today's political and economic climate in Europe.

Damocles, I'm sure you will want to have the last word on this as you usually do, and I shall bow to your superior knowledge of Hitler's rise to power - I've clearly spent too much time reading Kershaw when I should have been listening to the same podcasts as you.

Obviously. Kershaw is a regular guest on a variety of history programmes, having worked with the BBC numerous times. Personally I prefer Richard J. Evans and his stuff on the Weimar Republic/the rise of the Nazis.

But he's only the Professor of Modern History at Cambridge University. I'm sure your third class degree from Moston Community College in 1983 is just as handy a reference guide.

If that is true would my History O level out trump his degree?