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Prestwich_Blue said:
It's very dangerous to use labels like left or right indiscriminately. I know two Labour local politicians who I'd describe as right-leaning in their views.

If I were to try to sum my views up, I'd say I was a liberal, both economically and socially. I believe in the free market and the provision of many services by the private sector but I also think that some public services and infrastructure is better left to the public sector.

I believe that the government should build a platform for wealth creation by private enterprise but should ensure that's not at the expense of the people helping to build that prosperity.

I don't have a problem with private medicine (I have a policy myself) or the use of the private sector to provide services to the NHS but I also think that the NHS, free at the point of delivery, should be sacrosanct as a concept.

I rejoice in the multi-cultural, cosmopolitan society we are in the UK but think that immigration needs to be more carefully controlled.

I believe in Europe as a free market for goods and services but not the concept of economic and political union.

So am I left or right?
I tried to answer but my phone autocorrects to Zionist

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Prestwich_Blue said:
It's very dangerous to use labels like left or right indiscriminately. I know two Labour local politicians who I'd describe as right-leaning in their views.

If I were to try to sum my views up, I'd say I was a liberal, both economically and socially. I believe in the free market and the provision of many services by the private sector but I also think that some public services and infrastructure is better left to the public sector.

I believe that the government should build a platform for wealth creation by private enterprise but should ensure that's not at the expense of the people helping to build that prosperity.

I don't have a problem with private medicine (I have a policy myself) or the use of the private sector to provide services to the NHS but I also think that the NHS, free at the point of delivery, should be sacrosanct as a concept.

I rejoice in the multi-cultural, cosmopolitan society we are in the UK but think that immigration needs to be more carefully controlled.

I believe in Europe as a free market for goods and services but not the concept of economic and political union.

So am I left or right?
Pppffffftttttt........LWNJ!
 
squirtyflower said:
SWP's back said:
squirtyflower said:
That's up to them
However you couldn't possibly use the word all as you can't back that up with evidence, just opinion
Anyone can disagree if they wish
I disagree with your statement made at the beginning of our discourse
I respect your view.

You big yoghurt knotty commie.
 
i kne albert davy said:
worsleyweb said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Slightly gratuitous, insecure crow-barring of a reference to the existence of your history degree there JOTL.

What you've said is also utter bollocks.

I did the Tudors vs the Stewart's - GCSE history 1992. Ask me anything?
Did they make you sit at opposite sides of the classroom afterwards or were you expelled.

I spent 90 percent of my time at 6th form college watching city play head tennis at platt lane rather than going to William Hulme. It was only over the road. I learnt that Peter Reid and Roy Bailey were good at it. Neglected my history studies a bit!

Anyway - where's len rum with today's poll?
 
SWP's back said:
hilts said:
Damocles said:
More than a few mods have been following this thread and we have several trolls on it that are either being dealt with or will probably be dealt with if they continue after the election.

I hope your not in danger of stepping over the line into censorship here
I'm sure they will be fair.

But it does make me laugh when some people say the left are in the minority in here when all the mods except de niro are left at this election.

To be fair though, they, mainly, keep their personal feelings out of mod decisions.

Having read most of the thread I would say both sides are as equally sad and have more than there fair share of trolls and wum's, nearly all threads end this way and several mods often fall into the same trap
 
worsleyweb said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Johnsonontheleft said:
My history degree has taught me that PR is very dangerous as combined with a bad recession it led to the rise of National Socialism and ultimately was a main cause of WWII.

Having said that, the current system is totally Labour-biased due to the boundaries issue. And speaking of national socialists it will be a travesty of democracy if the SNP have anything of a say on English issues.
Slightly gratuitous, insecure crow-barring of a reference to the existence of your history degree there JOTL.

What you've said is also utter bollocks.

I did the Tudors vs the Stewart's - GCSE history 1992. Ask me anything?
How do you spell 'Stuart'?
 
worsleyweb said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Johnsonontheleft said:
My history degree has taught me that PR is very dangerous as combined with a bad recession it led to the rise of National Socialism and ultimately was a main cause of WWII.

Having said that, the current system is totally Labour-biased due to the boundaries issue. And speaking of national socialists it will be a travesty of democracy if the SNP have anything of a say on English issues.
Slightly gratuitous, insecure crow-barring of a reference to the existence of your history degree there JOTL.

What you've said is also utter bollocks.

I did the Tudors vs the Stewart's - GCSE history 1992. Ask me anything?

OK then
Was Jackie Stewart the best ever?
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
worsleyweb said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Slightly gratuitous, insecure crow-barring of a reference to the existence of your history degree there JOTL.

What you've said is also utter bollocks.

I did the Tudors vs the Stewart's - GCSE history 1992. Ask me anything?
How do you spell 'Stuart'?

Stewart - as in Paul Stewart! Come on now!!! Get with it.
 
worsleyweb said:
Ducado said:
worsleyweb said:
Major international companies ready to invest millions in property in manchester are hoping for a Tory win. Labours plans to impose rent caps based upon inflation will hammer the manchester construction industry at a time it is getting back on its feet.

It will be hugely detremental to my business of labour get in. I have just come off the phone to my dad who still spouts about Tory bastads and was a union leader! And makes rascal look like Nigel farage. Mrs ww - public sector worker is also voting labour - I am seriously thinking of throwing her out about it. Alls that she says is cameron is the cutter! That is the extent of her political knowledge. It's all good fun. I am tempted to hide her voting card.

From what you have posted on here it's more likely that she will throw you out rather than you throw her out!

That's very true! Asking all mods to show great flexibility tomorrow night! Emotions will be running high!!!

We are always flexible everyone knows the rules
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
It's very dangerous to use labels like left or right indiscriminately. I know two Labour local politicians who I'd describe as right-leaning in their views.

If I were to try to sum my views up, I'd say I was a liberal, both economically and socially. I believe in the free market and the provision of many services by the private sector but I also think that some public services and infrastructure is better left to the public sector.

I believe that the government should build a platform for wealth creation by private enterprise but should ensure that's not at the expense of the people helping to build that prosperity.

I don't have a problem with private medicine (I have a policy myself) or the use of the private sector to provide services to the NHS but I also think that the NHS, free at the point of delivery, should be sacrosanct as a concept.

I rejoice in the multi-cultural, cosmopolitan society we are in the UK but think that immigration needs to be more carefully controlled.

I believe in Europe as a free market for goods and services but not the concept of economic and political union.

So am I left or right?

You belong on the left of the Tory party, there isn't enough of them unfortunately
 
whp.blue said:
worsleyweb said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Slightly gratuitous, insecure crow-barring of a reference to the existence of your history degree there JOTL.

What you've said is also utter bollocks.

I did the Tudors vs the Stewart's - GCSE history 1992. Ask me anything?

OK then
Was Jackie Stewart the best ever?

You have spelt Stuart wrong you rwnj! Should this man be allowed a vote?
 
worsleyweb said:
i kne albert davy said:
worsleyweb said:
I did the Tudors vs the Stewart's - GCSE history 1992. Ask me anything?
Did they make you sit at opposite sides of the classroom afterwards or were you expelled.

I spent 90 percent of my time at 6th form college watching city play head tennis at platt lane rather than going to William Hulme. It was only over the road. I learnt that Peter Reid and Roy Bailey were good at it. Neglected my history studies a bit!

Anyway - where's len rum with today's poll?

Not noticed any for a while.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
It's very dangerous to use labels like left or right indiscriminately. I know two Labour local politicians who I'd describe as right-leaning in their views.

If I were to try to sum my views up, I'd say I was a liberal, both economically and socially. I believe in the free market and the provision of many services by the private sector but I also think that some public services and infrastructure is better left to the public sector.

I believe that the government should build a platform for wealth creation by private enterprise but should ensure that's not at the expense of the people helping to build that prosperity.

I don't have a problem with private medicine (I have a policy myself) or the use of the private sector to provide services to the NHS but I also think that the NHS, free at the point of delivery, should be sacrosanct as a concept.

I rejoice in the multi-cultural, cosmopolitan society we are in the UK but think that immigration needs to be more carefully controlled.

I believe in Europe as a free market for goods and services but not the concept of economic and political union.

So am I left or right?

Similar views to mine which has made who to vote for a difficult choice.
 
worsleyweb said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
worsleyweb said:
I did the Tudors vs the Stewart's - GCSE history 1992. Ask me anything?
How do you spell 'Stuart'?

Stewart - as in Paul Stewart! Come on now!!! Get with it.
With the Blackpool FC link, Owen Oysten definitely looks like one of the Gunpowder Plot conspirators, so I can see the connection.

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gordondaviesmoustache said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
It's very dangerous to use labels like left or right indiscriminately. I know two Labour local politicians who I'd describe as right-leaning in their views.

If I were to try to sum my views up, I'd say I was a liberal, both economically and socially. I believe in the free market and the provision of many services by the private sector but I also think that some public services and infrastructure is better left to the public sector.

I believe that the government should build a platform for wealth creation by private enterprise but should ensure that's not at the expense of the people helping to build that prosperity.

I don't have a problem with private medicine (I have a policy myself) or the use of the private sector to provide services to the NHS but I also think that the NHS, free at the point of delivery, should be sacrosanct as a concept.

I rejoice in the multi-cultural, cosmopolitan society we are in the UK but think that immigration needs to be more carefully controlled.

I believe in Europe as a free market for goods and services but not the concept of economic and political union.

So am I left or right?
Pretty much with you on all of that PB, apart from the second portion of your penultimate paragraph.

I'd describe myself as an ever so slightly right of centre liberal, who has been known to vote Labour -if that helps in any way ;-)

I've met you both, both came across as left footers/puddle jumpers/good with pastel colours. If that helps in any way.
 
KnaresboroughBlue said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
It's very dangerous to use labels like left or right indiscriminately. I know two Labour local politicians who I'd describe as right-leaning in their views.

If I were to try to sum my views up, I'd say I was a liberal, both economically and socially. I believe in the free market and the provision of many services by the private sector but I also think that some public services and infrastructure is better left to the public sector.

I believe that the government should build a platform for wealth creation by private enterprise but should ensure that's not at the expense of the people helping to build that prosperity.

I don't have a problem with private medicine (I have a policy myself) or the use of the private sector to provide services to the NHS but I also think that the NHS, free at the point of delivery, should be sacrosanct as a concept.

I rejoice in the multi-cultural, cosmopolitan society we are in the UK but think that immigration needs to be more carefully controlled.

I believe in Europe as a free market for goods and services but not the concept of economic and political union.

So am I left or right?

Similar views to mine which has made who to vote for a difficult choice.

Same as me I think con/lib dem pact would be the closet fit but it ain't happening
 
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