The General Election Thread

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Lucky13 said:
Rascal said:
Lucky13 said:
Ed is a socialist , Ed is a hypocrite , hardly right wing nonsense.

See once again idiot mode is set to default.

He may be a hypocrite, but he is not a Socialist. Your lack of understanding as to what a socialist is should by now astound me but i will keep trying to explain it. Banging my head against a brick wall has become my usual tactic on here of late. Knuckleheaded right wingers will get it eventually. After all some of you have learnt how to count to 10.

Ed the Red says otherwise comrade .

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10325076/Ed-Miliband-Im-bringing-socialism-back-to-Britain.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... itain.html</a>

That must be a Blatant lie as it is from the Telegraph

to save time I beat the left wingers to it.
 
kas_tippler said:
Gorgeous George on the radio before talking about getting people in work off benefits, contributing to the whole society. Freeing up vital funds for society's vulnerable. All the pieces of the jigsaw are falling into place in the last week of campaigning, it's a straight choice now!

Wonderful news, so the £11billion corporate hand out through tax credits is going to end with the employer paying their staff a living wage.
 
whp.blue said:
Lucky13 said:
Rascal said:
See once again idiot mode is set to default.

He may be a hypocrite, but he is not a Socialist. Your lack of understanding as to what a socialist is should by now astound me but i will keep trying to explain it. Banging my head against a brick wall has become my usual tactic on here of late. Knuckleheaded right wingers will get it eventually. After all some of you have learnt how to count to 10.

Ed the Red says otherwise comrade .

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10325076/Ed-Miliband-Im-bringing-socialism-back-to-Britain.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... itain.html</a>

That must be a Blatant lie as it is from the Telegraph

to save time I beat the left wingers to it.

I knew you'd say that , Ed the Red on Channel 4.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.channel4.com/news/ed-miliband-yes-i-am-a-socialist" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.channel4.com/news/ed-miliban ... -socialist</a>.
 
Rascal said:
whp.blue said:
You clearly haven't worked out how much a 5% increase in VAT puts on the price of a new Bentley or god forbid a new Helicopter or Yacht have you?

They are probably all bought tax free through some Cayman Island account and then double claimed back as expenses through some Swiss based accountancy firm called Cuntslikeus and Sons.

The yachts will be registered in Liberia and the helicopters will be classed as company cars that can fly a bit.

They will then all be scrapped and claimed for on insurance and half the takings will be donated to the Tory party through one of there mates hedge funds.
Is that your way of saying he had a good point?
 
Lucky13 said:
whp.blue said:
Lucky13 said:
Ed the Red says otherwise comrade .

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10325076/Ed-Miliband-Im-bringing-socialism-back-to-Britain.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... itain.html</a>

That must be a Blatant lie as it is from the Telegraph

to save time I beat the left wingers to it.

I knew you'd say that , Ed the Red on Channel 4.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.channel4.com/news/ed-miliband-yes-i-am-a-socialist" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.channel4.com/news/ed-miliban ... -socialist</a>.

I also knew you'd bring that up are you sure that's not Ed's better brother?

Ps I'm with you on this Ed is a lying hypocrite
 
bluemoon32 said:
I used to get het up about politics but regardless of who gets in nothing really changes.
You pay a bit more on one thing but save a bit somewhere else and basically life goes on much the same irrespective of who actually governs us.
We have not been governed by the Jocks yet, we will be come Friday
 
Lucky13 said:
Should have used crayons.

9gg1np.jpg

"Controls on immigration"

?

Either Labour have adopted a policy of leaving the EU or they're just writing bullshit promises about policy areas over which they have no control.

Which is it?
 
Chancy Termites said:
Lucky13 said:
Should have used crayons.

9gg1np.jpg

"Controls on immigration"

?

Either Labour have adopted a policy of leaving the EU or they're just writing bullshit promises about policy areas over which they have no control.

Which is it?

Neither Labour spin doctors have this one covered

He will promise to completely control all immigration of extra terrestrials

easy promise to keep
 
whp.blue said:
Here is a question for Rascal

who do you consider to be a Socialist Party and How many candidates are The Communists and the SLP fielding in this election?

The labour party is no longer Socialist sadly, although it is the lesser of the known evils.

The Communists and SLP have only a handful of candidates and are a strange bunch on the whole. The closest party to Socialist ideals in my view are The Green party. I think they will grow in time and become a real left wing alternative to Labour in the way that UKIP have to the Tories.
 
whp.blue said:
Lucky13 said:
whp.blue said:
That must be a Blatant lie as it is from the Telegraph

to save time I beat the left wingers to it.

I knew you'd say that , Ed the Red on Channel 4.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.channel4.com/news/ed-miliband-yes-i-am-a-socialist" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.channel4.com/news/ed-miliban ... -socialist</a>.

I also knew you'd bring that up are you sure that's not Ed's better brother?

Ps I'm with you on this Ed is a lying hypocrite

Hypocrisy is the socialist default , they really can't help themselves.

What Rascal is really upset about is not us calling Ed the Red a socialist , he hates Ed calling himself a socialist.
 
Rascal said:
whp.blue said:
Here is a question for Rascal

who do you consider to be a Socialist Party and How many candidates are The Communists and the SLP fielding in this election?

The labour party is no longer Socialist sadly, although it is the lesser of the known evils.

The Communists and SLP have only a handful of candidates and are a strange bunch on the whole. The closest party to Socialist ideals in my view are The Green party. I think they will grow in time and become a real left wing alternative to Labour in the way that UKIP have to the Tories.

Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels will be turning in their graves if they thought a bunch of looney sandal wearing tree huggers would be the sole guardians of their vision and great master plan!

no wonder you are so unhappy and aggressive towards the right wingers

Ukip are just a stepping stone on the relentless march to the right
you will be voting Conservative in a few years as they will be the left wing option
 
Chancy Termites said:
"Controls on immigration"

?

Either Labour have adopted a policy of leaving the EU or they're just writing bullshit promises about policy areas over which they have no control.

Which is it?

My point as Labour not being a Socialist party is answered thus.

Socialism is internationalist and therefore immigration controls are contrary to Socialist ideology.

What Labour no longers eschews is that Socialism is an ideology based on eradicating class divide by empowering the proleteriat to overthrow the elite. The current Labour party does little but perpetuate the status quo as favoured by small "c" conservatives and the neo Liberal elite.
 
Rascal said:
whp.blue said:
Here is a question for Rascal

who do you consider to be a Socialist Party and How many candidates are The Communists and the SLP fielding in this election?

The labour party is no longer Socialist sadly, although it is the lesser of the known evils.

The Communists and SLP have only a handful of candidates and are a strange bunch on the whole. The closest party to Socialist ideals in my view are The Green party. I think they will grow in time and become a real left wing alternative to Labour in the way that UKIP have to the Tories.

TUSC?
 
cibaman said:
Rascal said:
whp.blue said:
Here is a question for Rascal

who do you consider to be a Socialist Party and How many candidates are The Communists and the SLP fielding in this election?

The labour party is no longer Socialist sadly, although it is the lesser of the known evils.

The Communists and SLP have only a handful of candidates and are a strange bunch on the whole. The closest party to Socialist ideals in my view are The Green party. I think they will grow in time and become a real left wing alternative to Labour in the way that UKIP have to the Tories.

TUSC?

what has a Fleetwood Mac album got to do with this?
 
cibaman said:
Rascal said:
whp.blue said:
Here is a question for Rascal

who do you consider to be a Socialist Party and How many candidates are The Communists and the SLP fielding in this election?

The labour party is no longer Socialist sadly, although it is the lesser of the known evils.

The Communists and SLP have only a handful of candidates and are a strange bunch on the whole. The closest party to Socialist ideals in my view are The Green party. I think they will grow in time and become a real left wing alternative to Labour in the way that UKIP have to the Tories.

TUSC?

Heard their Political Broadcast on the radio , comedy gold.

<a class="postlink" href="http://m.tusc.org.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://m.tusc.org.uk/</a>
 
Lucky13 said:
cibaman said:
Rascal said:
The labour party is no longer Socialist sadly, although it is the lesser of the known evils.

The Communists and SLP have only a handful of candidates and are a strange bunch on the whole. The closest party to Socialist ideals in my view are The Green party. I think they will grow in time and become a real left wing alternative to Labour in the way that UKIP have to the Tories.

TUSC?

Heard their Political Broadcast on the radio , comedy gold.

<a class="postlink" href="http://m.tusc.org.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://m.tusc.org.uk/</a>

Love the banner on their website which states the Legend "Make the Bosses Pay" I have seen enough
 
Rascal said:
Chancy Termites said:
"Controls on immigration"

?

Either Labour have adopted a policy of leaving the EU or they're just writing bullshit promises about policy areas over which they have no control.

Which is it?

My point as Labour not being a Socialist party is answered thus.

Socialism is internationalist and therefore immigration controls are contrary to Socialist ideology.

What Labour no longers eschews is that Socialism is an ideology based on eradicating class divide by empowering the proleteriat to overthrow the elite. The current Labour party does little but perpetuate the status quo as favoured by small "c" conservatives and the neo Liberal elite.
Immigration controls were much, much tighter than today between 1945 and 1951.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Rascal said:
Chancy Termites said:
"Controls on immigration"

?

Either Labour have adopted a policy of leaving the EU or they're just writing bullshit promises about policy areas over which they have no control.

Which is it?

My point as Labour not being a Socialist party is answered thus.

Socialism is internationalist and therefore immigration controls are contrary to Socialist ideology.

What Labour no longers eschews is that Socialism is an ideology based on eradicating class divide by empowering the proleteriat to overthrow the elite. The current Labour party does little but perpetuate the status quo as favoured by small "c" conservatives and the neo Liberal elite.
Immigration controls were much, much tighter than today between 1945 and 1951.

Clement Richard Attlee was one hell of a racist bastard though with a name like that he even sounds like a Conservative
 
whp.blue said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Rascal said:
My point as Labour not being a Socialist party is answered thus.

Socialism is internationalist and therefore immigration controls are contrary to Socialist ideology.

What Labour no longers eschews is that Socialism is an ideology based on eradicating class divide by empowering the proleteriat to overthrow the elite. The current Labour party does little but perpetuate the status quo as favoured by small "c" conservatives and the neo Liberal elite.
Immigration controls were much, much tighter than today between 1945 and 1951.

Clement Richard Attlee was one hell of a racist bastard though with a name like that he even sounds like a Conservative
What do you expect from a middle-class, privately educated son of a solicitor?

Power to the people!
 
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