The Green Party

Don Karleone said:
He comes across as human, which is a start.
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Always helps when someone talks to the audience that way compared to robotic politics media training.

Good luck to him. Maybe an alliance with the other new left party where they pool their resources could start pushing against the narrative we're getting now.
 
I like what Polanski has had to say so far. Comes across as a decent leader for the Greens and a voice on the left that is prepared to put forward his argument well without conceding to right wing talking points.

I've voted Labour at every GE since I could vote but I think they've become too concerned with courting favour with those on the right that will never vote for them. It feels like they have been chasing shadows for the last year and a half now.

There's still a few years to go until the next GE (unless the 'patriots' on the far right and their Daddy Musk somehow get their way) but there's a good chance I'll be voting for the Green Party in the next election.
 
johnny crossan said:
The retired hypnotist leader of the Greens on BBC Politics just now calling for a "Squeeze The Rich Until Their Pips Squeak" wealth tax to eliminate inequality.
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Didn't see this. I thought he's been proposing a single digit percentage of tax on assets?

He might want to come up with a new name for it though if that's what he's calling it.
 
Heard Polanski being interviewed today and liked his backstory, and was generally warming to him, but his response to a question about Putin completely turned me. Which I’m genuinely sad about.

But if you can’t see what a monster we’re dealing with, then you cannot be trusted to run this country.

Came away thinking he was hopelessly naïve. Or dishonest.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Heard Polanski being interviewed today and liked his backstory, and was generally warming to him, but his response to a question about Putin completely turned me. Which I’m genuinely sad about.

But if you can’t see what a monster we’re dealing with, then you cannot be trusted to run this country.

Came away thinking he was hopelessly naïve. Or dishonest.
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What did he say?
 
Craig said:
What did he say?
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He didn’t say anything. He was asked a direct question about Putin, answered by talking about Donald Trump, then talked about the need for dialogue. Was pressed again about Putin, and swerved it. Spineless ****.

I’m all for dialogue, but there’s no negotiating with Putin. Complete waste of time. In that sense at least, he is comparable to Hitler.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
He didn’t say anything. He was asked a direct question about Putin, answered by talking about Donald Trump, then talked about the need for dialogue. Was pressed again about Putin, and swerved it. Spineless ****.

I’m all for dialogue, but there’s no negotiating with Putin. Complete waste of time. In that sense at least, he is comparable to Hitler.
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Whenever i’ve heard him he talks very well and usually answers all questions. Be very surprised if he thinks much for Vlad. Is Trump any better a person than Putin anyway? Both utter mental scumbags
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Heard Polanski being interviewed today and liked his backstory, and was generally warming to him, but his response to a question about Putin completely turned me. Which I’m genuinely sad about.

But if you can’t see what a monster we’re dealing with, then you cannot be trusted to run this country.

Came away thinking he was hopelessly naïve. Or dishonest.
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I saw a bit of his conference speech and he was very strong on Israel and us not selling arms, didn't hear anything on Russia so this is a worry. There was a few presentational things that irked but that's my general distrust of 'polished politicians'
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
He didn’t say anything. He was asked a direct question about Putin, answered by talking about Donald Trump, then talked about the need for dialogue. Was pressed again about Putin, and swerved it. Spineless ****.

I’m all for dialogue, but there’s no negotiating with Putin. Complete waste of time. In that sense at least, he is comparable to Hitler.
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That's frustrating, although maybe he wanted to keep his powder dry regards this thorny issue? Maybe an aide told him to avoid the issue? Still too early to say where their policies will definitively align.
 
Blue and true said:
That's frustrating, although maybe he wanted to keep his powder dry regards this thorny issue? Maybe an aide told him to avoid the issue? Still too early to say where their policies will definitively align.
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I think it’s safe to assume he’ll have no time for Putin. He’s started very well so far. So refreshing to see a politician talk quite openly and be clear with his messages
 
Craig said:
I think it’s safe to assume he’ll have no time for Putin. He’s started very well so far. So refreshing to see a politician talk quite openly and be clear with his messages
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I’m not prepared to assume anything based on what he said.

Like I said, I otherwise liked what he had to say, but it’s such a fundamental issue for me. For me, it’s genuinely on a par with being equivocal about Hitler. Anyone who cannot see what a dark, menacing force for evil that man is has to have their judgement called seriously into question.

And I’m sure if he was asked a question about Trump then he wouldn’t equivocate in that way, so why does he do that when asked a direct question about Putin?
 
Why are so many people on this forum far left?

I’m not saying you’re wrong or any party is better, just genuinely wondering why. For me, many of the Green and Labour policies are terrible for us to the point where I’d have to leave the country if I’m taxed any higher. Nobody needs a £40k a year tax bill across two countries.

These parties keep pushing for ‘tax the rich’, but compared to what multinationals should be paying in tax my contribution is minimal. How about Labour et al focus on billionaires and huge businesses instead of taxing ordinary people so much?

I’m no fan of Reform either I hasten to add!
 
Pretty sure that's a fake name he uses and he used to be a self employed boob hypnotherapist.
Shows the standard of politicians we now get.

Self serving bullshitting conmen.
 
He/they have clearly decided they'll get most traction by focusing on domestic issues and more specifically on wealth inequality. I think they're right on this but the selectivity/swerving on foreign policy so far does illustrate a problem they might have sooner rather than later.

If his momentum takes him to the point where he/the green party are seen to 'matter' and are viewed as serious players the scrutiny on things like foreign policy will ramp up as part of the analysis of whether they are a 'serious' party. If he equivocates on issues such as Russian expansionism he will get taken to cleaners by other parties and the media in general.

I think he knows his first job is to actually get to the dance. If he does, how he then goes about getting the public to trust such unknown quantities on matters beyond these shores will be interesting.

Maybe it'll be moot. Assuming the end game for him is to get to the point where they have influence in a coalition it's unlikely their portfolio will include much in relation to the FO or the DoD and that probably suits everyone.
 
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