The idiocy (and selfishness) of panic buying

Some people may call me selfish. I had half a tank need a full tank for Friday for my holiday to Cornwall. I havent seen a garage with fuel all week. That must be around 10 garages aday I pass though work, all empty.

Went out last night to fill up to make sure I could get to Cornwall and the four days of work next week.
First 4 garages no fuel, 5th garage tanker just turn up and I was first in the que. This was about 8pm. Within in seconds on me stopping the que grew quickly. Now my son text me at 7 am to say he is stuck in the same que as I was in last night. He doesnt need fuel but cant get passed to go to work.

I saw one poor bloke run out of fuel about 100 yds from a petrol station by some traffic lights, he had to get out and push. Unfortunately the garage didnt have fuel.

I normally wouldn't have got fuel yesterday but I perhaps selfishly wanted to make sure I could go on holiday.
 
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oldius said:
I assume you are referring to me as a whiner and a bad loser. I find it surprising that you would make those comments about someone you have never met or, to my knowledge, ever had a conversation with. It is not the losing that bothers me, in any way, it is the loss of my social and economic liberty for no benefit, literally none whatsoever. If your only argument is to say that you have won, surely the prize must be one worth winning, but I have yet to hear a coherent argument in favour of Brexit where the results are already evident.
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As I don't have a problem with anyone reading what they like,I understand your view, and respect it, and my apologies if I inferred that. If you can't hear a coherent argument in favour of Brexit, I certainly can, I see and hear them daily, pro EU media isn't the sole reference source.
As an aside, yet again, a topic on panic buying drifts once more to a topic now redundant, lol.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
And I hear a lot of this, and the reply, made on here about a thousand times, is that it's illegal to print lies in a newspaper.
You are reading a publications opinion on actual events quoted/referred to, don't like them, so call them lies.
I could, if I were one of the press haters, pick snippets from all the left wing papers, and call them liars, it's easy, but not so easy to sell to a judge.
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I am reading headlines that are then contradicted by outcomes. They are not sold as opinions, but facts, and facts leading to people's voting patterns.These predictions that were dismissed as Project Fear are now facts on the streets, employment offices, and ports. Why defend it?
 
Ancient Citizen said:
As I don't have a problem with anyone reading what they like,I understand your view, and respect it, and my apologies if I inferred that. If you can't hear a coherent argument in favour of Brexit, I certainly can, I see and hear them daily, pro EU media isn't the sole reference source.
As an aside, yet again, a topic on panic buying drifts once more to a topic now redundant, lol.
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It isn't redundant if one of the major causes of the problems we now face is a decision that was taken after politicians and the media colluded to influence voting patterns. Just as one example, Nigel Farage said, that the prospect of food shortages was utterly preposterous, laughable, and should be entirely dismissed. He carried a lot of influence and it is clear that his statement was a lie.
 
oldius said:
I am reading headlines that are then contradicted by outcomes. They are not sold as opinions, but facts, and facts leading to people's voting patterns.These predictions that were dismissed as Project Fear are now facts on the streets, employment offices, and ports. Why defend it?
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And immediately before the vote we were told, by the likes
of the Guardian, on here, the Prime Minister at the time and various EU supporters, that there would be an immediate 10%
on income tax. So talk about 'Lies' if you like, at the time I knew it was just sloganising, as per the pro Brexit slogans,
but using your parameters, it's lying. If I could be bothered,
I'd put up another dozen, but it's pointless.
 
oldius said:
It isn't redundant if one of the major causes of the problems we now face is a decision that was taken after politicians and the media colluded to influence voting patterns.
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As we're discussing panic buying and petrol queues, it's going to be a pretty hard sell blaming Brexit for an announcement
made by Naga Munchetty about a couple of petrol stations.
There is no shortage of petrol, that's now apparent, but if it helps, well, it's a free world.
 
Much different this morning at Sainsbury's. Still busier than usual, but not actually queuing to get into the petrol station or blocking lanes.

This suggests that there is some truth in the immediate issues being caused by driver behaviour rather than true shortages. Who'd have thunk it? Must have got rid of all that excess fuel not sold during that pandemic then. Either that or they just pushed it off the edge of the world.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
And I hear a lot of this, and the reply, made on here about a thousand times, is that it's illegal to print lies in a newspaper.
You are reading a publications opinion on actual events quoted/referred to, don't like them, so call them lies.
I could, if I were one of the press haters, pick snippets from all the left wing papers, and call them liars, it's easy, but not so easy to sell to a judge.
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That reply would have been wrong a thousand times then. It’s not illegal to print lies.
 
i kne albert davy said:
No problem I hate to see those who can bother to work be exploited and undercut by cheap labour to keep idlers sat on their backsides while the rich get richer.
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Bad news, comrade, the Dept for Glorious British Labour is fudging the visas to bring in more foreign workers from drivers and bakers to candlestick makers.

But, fear not for the glorious British worker, as this is temporary and these imported workers will be interned and deported, their pockets lined with much British Sterling, as soon as the crisis is over.
 
We are saved! Let much rejoicing commence. The enemy abroad has organised an emergency airlift to feed us at Christmas!

 
300 tanker drivers on a four month contract , they will say get fucked , produce delivery drivers for a similar time will also say get fucked , only hope is offering them at least six months visa and sort out the backlog here will take that long at least
 
Brian Madderson, chairman of the PRA, said a lack of fuel remained a "really big problem" in London and the south east.

And he told Sky News: "We have just completed our survey of over 1,000 sites across the UK and the situation is very much better than it was yesterday.

news.sky.com

Fuel crisis eases but 'remains critical' in parts of UK - as visas for foreign drivers extended

The health secretary says the military are only being deployed as a "precaution" - and insists the situation is "stabilising" in most areas.
news.sky.com news.sky.com
 
BobKowalski said:
We are saved! Let much rejoicing commence. The enemy abroad has organised an emergency airlift to feed us at Christmas!

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Bore off mate.

British HGV drivers wages are going up, and will stay there with the absence of foreign drivers from the EU over the coming years creating a downward pressure on wages.

This short term crisis will benefit British workers in the longterm, and will help secure lots of people stable longterm careers. I have friends made recently redundant that are now getting into the industry.

I thought your ilk were all about the workers and being the voice of the working class?

I'm no Tory, but Labour would have foreign HGV drivers here indefinitely and a great opportunity to upskill British workers would be lost forever. As is, it can't be changed overnight so a lot of foreign workers will benefit in the short term, longterm British workers will benefit. A lot already are.

Party points scoring embarrassment some of your posts. You have socialist views/principles or you don't.

A skilled 30k-50k job for an average worker, without a uni education and/or the benefits of middle class networking/nepotism/favours, is something that's well out of reach for most ordinary working class people. Something like this offers a real opportunity of social mobility for a lot of people, and all you care for is wanking over your party politics derby. Boring, and wholly embarrassing.

I don't regret voting out, and would do it again tomorrow. Cheers.
 
Phil Mitchell Foden said:
Bore off mate.

British HGV drivers wages are going up, and will stay there with the absence of foreign drivers from the EU over the coming years creating a downward pressure on wages.

This short term crisis will benefit British workers in the longterm, and will help secure lots of people stable longterm careers. I have friends made recently redundant that are now getting into the industry.

I thought your ilk were all about the workers and being the voice of the working class?

I'm no Tory, but Labour would have foreign HGV drivers here indefinitely and a great opportunity to upskill British workers would be lost forever. As is, it can't be changed overnight so a lot of foreign workers will benefit in the short term, longterm British workers will benefit. A lot already are.

Party points scoring embarrassment some of your posts. You have socialist views/principles or you don't.

A skilled 30k-50k job for an average worker, without a uni education and/or the benefits of middle class networking/nepotism/favours, is something that's well out of reach for most ordinary working class people. Something like this offers a real opportunity of social mobility for a lot of people, and all you care for is wanking over your party politics derby. Boring, and wholly embarrassing.

I don't regret voting out, and would do it again tomorrow. Cheers.
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Wonderful news for lorry drivers.

Not so good news for all the other low paid careers that won’t be able to afford the food at the higher cost it causes.

Before not being able to afford to heat their homes.
 
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