Couldn't say for certain, but if like myself (Hackney South), you were a once labour voter who now wants a remain party, you'll go lib dem or green.
That said, Peterborough held for Labour, so maybe its just me who's sick of Labour and Tories.
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Couldn't say for certain, but if like myself (Hackney South), you were a once labour voter who now wants a remain party, you'll go lib dem or green.
That said, Peterborough held for Labour, so maybe its just me who's sick of Labour and Tories.
bluethrunthru
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I’m sure the labour voters of Streatham are thrilled. Jump once, jump twice the guy is a complete fraud.
what is his slogan at the next election? "Vote me. You'll get what I want to be when I decide what that is" ?
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So chuka finally where he belonged from the start, too many liberals infected labour in the 00s as it was a way into parliament because the lib dems were a dead duck.
Now they can stick to their true neo liberal ideals in an actual liberal arty believing they are going to become a political force.
Now they can stick to their true neo liberal ideals in an actual liberal arty believing they are going to become a political force.
Do you think? What gives you confidence?
They’ve got their position sorted on Brexit very clearly, they’ve adopted a climate policy, they’ve pitched themselves in the centre ground which is crying out for support.
I like Cable but I think they’re a charismatic leader away from mounting a serious challenge.
I’m not saying they’ll get a majority but this could be their best performance.
So chuka finally where he belonged from the start, too many liberals infected labour in the 00s as it was a way into parliament because the lib dems were a dead duck.
Now they can stick to their true neo liberal ideals in an actual liberal arty believing they are going to become a political force.
Good luck to them.
Better them than the racist communist nutters in the Labour Party.
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Good luck to them.
Better them than the racist communist nutters in the Labour Party.
One leadership election to a more palatable one to the centre right like the PLP and strangley that tag will dissapear, yet all those members and party worker will still be there.
Funny that, but then generalisation about the largest membership of any political party in europe, and each individual worker in that party has been your repeated mantra on this sub forum from the start.
How about talking about labour policy and why bar 5 members of the front bench (and corbyn isn't included as he is a useless ****)
The PLP are idle in challenging the fuckwittery of this government.
That is the issue withing labour, that so many people have voted for MPs that are happy to sit back and watch the country burn because it may get rid of their leader.
Corbyn is a dick, but he ain't no communist, and niether are labour take it from someone who has been, and a racist party? Behave, the leader may be fucking useless in tackling the small number of antisemite, but to brand neealt half a million members racist is ridiculous thing to do.
I critisice the MPs and councilors of the lib dems, the voter I may think are wasting a vote but that is their choice I wouldn't brand them x, y, z .
Same brexit party, green, SNP etc voters.
Tories I am baffled after the last 10 yeaes who would vote for them tbf.
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One leadership election to a more palatable one to the centre right like the PLP and strangley that tag will dissapear, yet all those members and party worker will still be there.
Funny that, but then generalisation about the largest membership of any political party in europe, and each individual worker in that party has been your repeated mantra on this sub forum from the start.
How about talking about labour policy and why bar 5 members of the front bench (and corbyn isn't included as he is a useless ****)
The PLP are idle in challenging the fuckwittery of this government.
That is the issue withing labour, that so many people have voted for MPs that are happy to sit back and watch the country burn because it may get rid of their leader.
Corbyn is a dick, but he ain't no communist, and niether are labour take it from someone who has been, and a racist party? Behave, the leader may be fucking useless in tackling the small number of antisemite, but to brand neealt half a million members racist is ridiculous thing to do.
I critisice the MPs and councilors of the lib dems, the voter I may think are wasting a vote but that is their choice I wouldn't brand them x, y, z .
Same brexit party, green, SNP etc voters.
Tories I am baffled after the last 10 yeaes who would vote for them tbf.
Why have you automatically taken that me saying I’d rather the Liberal Democrat party win than the Communists, who are racist, in the Labour Party as the whole Labour membership?
I’m specifically talking about the leadership and those influencing the party.
It’s not even the whole of Labour’s MP’s either, never mind the membership, it’s a minority but it’s those that are now running the party.
Don’t play the victim by claiming I’m calling all Labour members.
Corbyn is a socialist, his latest manifesto was one of Social Democracy, but despite him being a useless fool, even he knows he cannot switch from our current model to Venezuela.
Make no mistake though, that would be the end goal.
McDonnell is a communist, he readily admits that and he shall be Chancellor if Labour win.
It’s not talking about the minority of racists in the membership, I’m talking about Milne who recently said that Israel are behind ISIS, I’m talking about Corbyn himself laying wreaths at the graves of Jew murdering terrorists and praising an antisemitic mural.
Can you please tell me where I’ve called any labour voters racist?
Please come on, you’re better than that.
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Why have you automatically taken that me saying I’d rather the Liberal Democrat party win than the Communists, who are racist, in the Labour Party as the whole Labour membership?
I’m specifically talking about the leadership and those influencing the party.
It’s not even the whole of Labour’s MP’s either, never mind the membership, it’s a minority but it’s those that are now running the party.
Don’t play the victim by claiming I’m calling all Labour members.
Corbyn is a socialist, his latest manifesto was one of Social Democracy, but despite him being a useless fool, even he knows he cannot switch from our current model to Venezuela.
Make no mistake though, that would be the end goal.
McDonnell is a communist, he readily admits that and he shall be Chancellor if Labour win.
It’s not talking about the minority of racists in the membership, I’m talking about Milne who recently said that Israel are behind ISIS, I’m talking about Corbyn himself laying wreaths at the graves of Jew murdering terrorists and praising an antisemitic mural.
Can you please tell me where I’ve called any labour voters racist?
Please come on, you’re better than that.
Well say that then, you alway refer to it as racist party not racist leadership.
And tbf it isn't just you, I have done it about UKIP, but when discussing labour I always use leqdership, front bench, PLP and party/membership seperate because all are pulling against each other at times.
We know the leader is a dick and useless
We know some PLP members are twats
We know some minotrity of the members are intolerant.
I ain't playing the victim, call corbyn what you like, call the anti semites in the membership or alligning to jezza what you like.
Bit the genearla labour are racist billocks is common place.
Similar to @blueinsa complaints on the brexit thread thaf all brexiteers are branded racist, it is not helpful to the debate.
Back to the topic and the idependants losing chukka, I wonder if hiedi and the rest will follow suit
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Whats your take on the two potential leaders? I think Ed Davey shades it for me but neither are what I perceive as charismatic 'breakthrough' leaders. Now, at the risk of sending our Brexit chums apoplectic, how about a cheeky transfer bid for Guy Maurice Marie Louise Verhofstadt? He's nice.They’ve got their position sorted on Brexit very clearly, they’ve adopted a climate policy, they’ve pitched themselves in the centre ground which is crying out for support.
I like Cable but I think they’re a charismatic leader away from mounting a serious challenge.
I’m not saying they’ll get a majority but this could be their best performance.
Whats your take on the two potential leaders? I think Ed Davey shades it for me but neither are what I perceive as charismatic 'breakthrough' leaders. Now, at the risk of sending our Brexit chums apoplectic, how about a cheeky transfer bid for Guy Maurice Marie Louise Verhofstadt? He's nice.
Can you imagine.
Would be a great wind up.