The "infamous" Busby babes

[Dubai Blue]

Same as a few others have said on here, my old man reckons Duncan Edwards was an incredible player. He insists that he could have been one of the very best.

That's how I feel about Paul Lake
The lad could have been one of England's finest ever players. But we'll never know if he would've progressed or ended up like Ian Brightwell.

You say that last bit as if becoming City's second greatest ever player would have been a disappointment!!!!!!

 

[Clubber]

The team may have progressed onto greaty things, but they were beaten in the FA cup final by villa the same year as the crash. Maybe the like arsenal, a couple more years or whatever.

On the same note, it was recently the anniversary of the torino teams plane crash disater. All the team, except a goalkeeper who was injured so didn't travel, died. They were winning things and were rated, at the time, as one of the best sides in europe.

I can never understand why there isn't as much attention paid to these great players, and this terrible event.

 

[Gazza]

Same as a few others have said on here, my old man reckons Duncan Edwards was an incredible player. He insists that he could have been one of the very best.

That's how I feel about Paul Lake
The lad could have been one of England's finest ever players. But we'll never know if he would've progressed or ended up like Ian Brightwell.

You say that last bit as if becoming City's second greatest ever player would have been a disappointment!!!!!!

At last! your identity is revealed Dubai 'Ian Brightwell' Blue

 

[1_barry_conlon]

Same as a few others have said on here, my old man reckons Duncan Edwards was an incredible player. He insists that he could have been one of the very best.

That's how I feel about Paul Lake
The lad could have been one of England's finest ever players. But we'll never know if he would've progressed or ended up like Ian Brightwell.

You say that last bit as if becoming City's second greatest ever player would have been a disappointment!!!!!!

At last! your identity is revealed Dubai 'Ian Brightwell' Blue

My old man is a red as are the rest of my family (nowt i can do about it) and he saw them play quite a few times. He reckoned that Eddie Coleman was a better play than Edwards but then again for that era he also reckons nobody could touch Tom Finney, and that included Di Stefano and Puskas as he'd seen them in the flesh as well.

 

[Jnr Kisby]

They were before my time but on a similar note Heath Ledger should never have one that oscar.

Or won it, even!!

I disagree, I know this isnt the thread for it but who cares. Was the best villain i've ever seen in a batman film and by far the best joker. Never seen someone get into the role quite as much as he did.

 

[M18CTID]

The team may have progressed onto greaty things, but they were beaten in the FA cup final by villa the same year as the crash. Maybe the like arsenal, a couple more years or whatever.

On the same note, it was recently the anniversary of the torino teams plane crash disater. All the team, except a goalkeeper who was injured so didn't travel, died. They were winning things and were rated, at the time, as one of the best sides in europe.

I can never understand why there isn't as much attention paid to these great players, and this terrible event.

Without looking it up, I'm not sure of all the facts regarding that Torino team but I think I'm right in saying that it contained virtually the whole Italian national side, had won something like 3 Italian league titles on the bounce and was well on its way to winning a 4th at the time of the crash. I'm not trying to play down how good the Busby Babes were but by all accounts the Torino team was arguably even better as it was totally dominating Italian football at the time of the disaster whereas the United side of the 1950's was pretty well matched by the Wolves team of that era.

Bearing all this in mind, it does seem odd why it doesn't get as much coverage of M*nich - even in Italy, the media don't seem to make as big a deal of it as the media do over here regarding M*nich. I think there are various reasons - the Torino crash happened in 1949 well before European football came into being so may not have got as much coverage at the time. I also heard that as most of the team comprised Italian internationals, it was seen as a bit of an embarrassment in Italy in that it totally decimated their national side so they don't make as big an issue out of it as they might. Finally, Torino as a club doesn't whore themselves around the world off the back of the disaster unlike our friends down the road.

 

[Clubber]

The team may have progressed onto greaty things, but they were beaten in the FA cup final by villa the same year as the crash. Maybe the like arsenal, a couple more years or whatever.

On the same note, it was recently the anniversary of the torino teams plane crash disater. All the team, except a goalkeeper who was injured so didn't travel, died. They were winning things and were rated, at the time, as one of the best sides in europe.

I can never understand why there isn't as much attention paid to these great players, and this terrible event.

Without looking it up, I'm not sure of all the facts regarding that Torino team but I think I'm right in saying that it contained virtually the whole Italian national side, had won something like 3 Italian league titles on the bounce and was well on its way to winning a 4th at the time of the crash. I'm not trying to play down how good the Busby Babes were but by all accounts the Torino team was arguably even better as it was totally dominating Italian football at the time of the disaster whereas the United side of the 1950's was pretty well matched by the Wolves team of that era.

Bearing all this in mind, it does seem odd why it doesn't get as much coverage of M*nich - even in Italy, the media don't seem to make as big a deal of it as the media do over here regarding M*nich. I think there are various reasons - the Torino crash happened in 1949 well before European football came into being so may not have got as much coverage at the time. I also heard that as most of the team comprised Italian internationals, it was seen as a bit of an embarrassment in Italy in that it totally decimated their national side so they don't make as big an issue out of it as they might. Finally, Torino as a club doesn't whore themselves around the world off the back of the disaster unlike our friends down the road.

Totally agree mate.

They were actually on the plane to play friendlies/exhibition with bigger foregin opponents, as there was no european competion.

 

[droylsdenblue]

I go to the match with a 70ish year old bloke that captained the Manchester County FA side which was made up of both City and United youngsters at the time which incuded Duncan Edwards and I asked the same question a few years back. His reply was "Edwards was the greatest player of his generation, a boy who competed with men and won" I respect this guys opinion on football so that did it for me.
But unless you were there you cant really comment!

 

[tommyducks]

Death is a great career move. John Lennon will tell you that. Well, he won't but.....

 

[Timbobs]

Before I start i dont want this topic to descend into all out chaos about "rag this rag" that, "scum sing ****** songs", "united used it as a marketing tool" (which they did) because it bores me

How good actually were these so called "babes", United won the european cup 10 years later,

England won the world cup 8 years later, so did it really have such a huge affect on united and england?

Without being disrespectful they cant have been that bloody good

I heard somewhere only a few of them actually played internationally but they were young

and.. Duncan Edwards was he cracked up to what everyone says he was? or was it because they died peoples thoughts on them were blown completly out of proportion?

Its the Human thing to Big up people after theyve gone...Van gough couldnt give his paintings away when alive....James Dean was a crap actor but still an Icon..Was George Best really that good seeing as he never played in a proper world cup game ??

In Best's defence, Northern Ireland are crap ;)