The IRA

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Indeed. "These are the risks involved, sign on the dotted line if you wish to continue." Unless of course you are saying that (as with a significantly large number of prostitutes) people are forced into becoming soldiers or footballers against their own free will and are not fully aware of the risks involved.

Well I would have imagined by virtue of the fact that I was making the other two jobs analogous with the army that you would have realised that I wasn't trying to say that.

What about aid workers that get murdered?
Construction workers crushed by faulty machinery?

They know the risks. Tough shit for them too I guess?

What about CSO's who refuse to save a drowning member of the public because it's not in their job description. Presumably you are happy to defend them because they are exercising their free will and have evaluated the risks involved.

Now you are putting words in my mouth. I asked a question and made no defence of any position. For the examples given, it is an occupational hazard, but certainly not "tough shit" if that hazard came upon them; that's just adding emotion into the debate.

To my mind in those situations saying 'it's an occupational hazard' and 'tough shit' are equivalent to each other and equally lacking in empathy.

And to be fair I don't think I've added any more emotion to this debate than was already present.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

For the one's bleating about how callous the British Army was in N.I, can you answer me this question?

It's common knowledge that the British knew exactly who the players were in the IRA, if the British were so evil and callous why weren't all these known terrorists just taken out?

The SAS did plenty of that thank fuck.

You know it's a little known fact that Gerry Adams was actually saved from assassination by the British Army.

The British could have took the lot of them out, but didn't.

 

[SWP's back]

And the IRA deliberately shot innocent children with semi automatic weapons now did they?

Sorry,i stand corrected,they were much braver than that and used hidden explosives in dustbins and underneath public transport vehicles to 'defend'themselves or 'attack'the enemy.

I think we've covered this area, mate.

You would say that, this area kind of poo poos the op respect in the op.<br /><br />-- Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:44 pm --<br /><br />

For the one's bleating about how callous the British Army was in N.I, can you answer me this question?

It's common knowledge that the British knew exactly who the players were in the IRA, if the British were so evil and callous why weren't all these known terrorists just taken out?

The SAS did plenty of that thank fuck.

You know it's a little known fact that Gerry Adams was actually saved from assassination by the British Army.

The British could have took the lot of them out, but didn't.

They'd only have been replaced and gone further to ground. I'd dare say many were saved by bugging the homes of those involved.

 

[johnmc]

You know it's a little known fact that Gerry Adams was actually saved from assassination by the British Army.

The British could have took the lot of them out, but didn't.

When was this? He has obviously been shot at enough times

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

For the one's bleating about how callous the British Army was in N.I, can you answer me this question?

It's common knowledge that the British knew exactly who the players were in the IRA, if the British were so evil and callous why weren't all these known terrorists just taken out?

There were SAS raids and some members were "taken out". Not always as easy as that
is it. Why wasnt Bin Laden just taken out years ago or Saddam

Anyway its the actions of the British army against innocent people that was the issue. If they take out a terrorist then so be it, that I would say is part of their job.

They knew exactly where the IRA members lived, where they went for a pint...etc

Would have been the easiest thing in the world to take them all out, but the government didn't want to face the international backlash, especially from the USA.

Quite ironic seeing how Americans now perceive Terrorists.

 

[mammutly]

This thread is bollocks.

For someone who was earlier butting out this thread, your contribution has been outstanding. However, you are now simply stirring and you know it.
;-)

 

[SWP's back]

This thread is bollocks.

For someone who was earlier butting out this thread, your contribution has been outstanding. However, you are now simply stirring and you know it.
;-)

I'm stirring eh? Well fuck me with a tubie grip if it ain't the pot calling the kettle a darkie.

 

[doots]

Can any one tell me what is the dfference between the cowards that gunned down the young lads on sentry duty in N.I who were waiting for a take away delivery and the cunts that plant i.e.d.'s or strap explosives to kids in afghanistan.?

 

[johnmc]

Can any one tell me what is the dfference between the cowards that gunned down the young lads on sentry duty in N.I who were waiting for a take away delivery and the cunts that plant i.e.d.'s or strap explosives to kids in afghanistan.?

Skin Colour

 

[doots]

Can any one tell me what is the dfference between the cowards that gunned down the young lads on sentry duty in N.I who were waiting for a take away delivery and the cunts that plant i.e.d.'s or strap explosives to kids in afghanistan.?

Skin Colour

fair enough,i suppose this thread needed a bit of dark humour