The IRA

[BigTony]

If 6 counties of England, lets says Cornwall, Devon and a few others around there we're occupied by let's says France and around half the people lived there wanted to be English would you rebel?

I know I would.

 

[stony]

If 6 counties of England, lets says Cornwall, Devon and a few others around there we're occupied by let's says France and around half the people lived there wanted to be English would you rebel?

I know I would.

Do you think it would be ok for the Scottish nationalists to take up arms against the UK? The Welsh too for that matter.

 

[supa-dapa-dan]

Why did the IRA need to attack soft targets? Why the need to kill and maim innocent civilians going about their everyday business? It was Callous and indiscriminate! A bomb doesn't differentiate between Black or White or Catholic or Protestant.

The IRA could have taken the fight solely to the Army, but they chose not to, maybe because unarmed civilians can't shoot back?

If they'd took it straight to the army and wern't anonymous they would have just got arrested.

Remember they see it as their country and the Army as invaders/oppresors.

Again though the British army killed a lot more innocent civilians, the more you go back the worse it is. I don't think we're taught the truth in England, I know I wasn't in school, or haven't been by the media.

I do think they went too far at the end though and the guy showing the warringto picture, I could show pictures of 100s of innocent people killed by the british army, are they not as important in your eyes?

If it was a war , have the courage to fight the opposition , shoot at people who can shoot back , cowards blow up children , cowards blow up the Household Cavalry on parade , cowards blow up Rememberance Services and cowards blow up town centres , but thats something you admire , says a lot about you.

Irgun,Menachem Begin?What do YOU have to say about them?

 

[BigTony]

If 6 counties of England, lets says Cornwall, Devon and a few others around there we're occupied by let's says France and around half the people lived there wanted to be English would you rebel?

I know I would.

Do you think it would be ok for the Scottish nationalists to take up arms against the UK? The Welsh too for that matter.

If the British army was killing Scottish nationalists on a civil rights march then yes. But that's an entirely different situation altogether.

 

[stony]

If 6 counties of England, lets says Cornwall, Devon and a few others around there we're occupied by let's says France and around half the people lived there wanted to be English would you rebel?

I know I would.

Do you think it would be ok for the Scottish nationalists to take up arms against the UK? The Welsh too for that matter.

If the British army was killing Scottish nationalists on a civil rights march then yes. But that's an entirely different situation altogether.

How is it a different situation? Scotland is the same as NI, it's a country that was conquered and became part of Britain. The Highland clearances weren't that long ago. They have just a big a beef with the English as anyone. We even nicked all their oil.

 

[BigTony]

Do you think it would be ok for the Scottish nationalists to take up arms against the UK? The Welsh too for that matter.

If the British army was killing Scottish nationalists on a civil rights march then yes. But that's an entirely different situation altogether.

How is it a different situation? Scotland is the same as NI, it's a country that was conquered and became part of Britain. The Highland clearances weren't that long ago. They have just a big a beef with the English as anyone. We even nicked all their oil.

It's totally different.

There's nowhere near the same level of tension and conflict regarding Scottish independence. I'm sure you knew that anyway.

Plus scotland is in Britain on the same island as England, not a country from across the sea.

 

[stony]

If the British army was killing Scottish nationalists on a civil rights march then yes. But that's an entirely different situation altogether.

How is it a different situation? Scotland is the same as NI, it's a country that was conquered and became part of Britain. The Highland clearances weren't that long ago. They have just a big a beef with the English as anyone. We even nicked all their oil.

It's totally different.

There's nowhere near the same level of tension and conflict regarding Scottish independence. I'm sure you knew that anyway.

Plus scotland is in Britain on the same island as England, not a country from across the sea.

The Falklands is thousands of miles away and they're happy to be British.

Nowhere near the level of tension ? Purely down to religious bigotry and intolerance and fuck all to do with independence.

 

[BigTony]

Fair enough, I guess you'd be happy enough to roll over and accept that, but it's not something I would be able to do.

 

[MCFCinUSA]

Let me just catagorically state before I begin that I am not comparing anything to anything here. Really I'm not. I'm not saying one is the same as the other, or better or worse. They are entirely different things. Yet I am about to write them to illustrate why I think the OP has possibly just produced the most stupid and obvious point since I found out about this forum. Obvious because his point is....well, fucking duh. And stupid because of the needless offense he knew he might cause to fellow blues.

Here goes......say what you like about the Yorkshire Ripper but its incredible really that he managed to avoid capture for so long. A bad man sure but there's no doubt he was very talented at being a serial killer.

The Nazis....how did one country do that?! Fair play to them. Credit where its due. Some of the things they did were way ahead of their time.

Breivik....a sick indivual but it was quite ingenius how he used the bomb to distract the police and then disguised himself as a police officer in order to be let onto the island with weaponary. People will be just remembering him for the bloodshed no doubt but its worth pointing out the method to the madness.

interesting thread to read - and clearly a 'no win' for anyone on this subject area in general, especially for those who have been caught up in anything like this no matter which side they've suffered (and I'm talking about the victims of violence - not the perpetrators of it)

as for your posting, I think you totally owned the OP and did so with aplomb and humour - to you the spoils.

 

[Lucky13]

If they'd took it straight to the army and wern't anonymous they would have just got arrested.

Remember they see it as their country and the Army as invaders/oppresors.

Again though the British army killed a lot more innocent civilians, the more you go back the worse it is. I don't think we're taught the truth in England, I know I wasn't in school, or haven't been by the media.

I do think they went too far at the end though and the guy showing the warringto picture, I could show pictures of 100s of innocent people killed by the british army, are they not as important in your eyes?

If it was a war , have the courage to fight the opposition , shoot at people who can shoot back , cowards blow up children , cowards blow up the Household Cavalry on parade , cowards blow up Rememberance Services and cowards blow up town centres , but thats something you admire , says a lot about you.

Irgun,Menachem Begin?What do YOU have to say about them?

Nothing , this thread is about the i ran away , feel free to comment on the cowards who blow up defenceless men , women and children.