The idea that this guy has England flags in his flat, apart from some focus group inspired photo shoot, is hilarious. He can't even lie convincingly. He's clearly been told that coming out against your own country's flag would be off the charts moronic even for him. I suppose it's encouraging that there is a level of stupidity that even this Labour government isn't willing to exceed, but this is a very low bar.
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metalblue
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Oh fuck me sideways that’s got to be a joke? No way Starmer would be that desperate to be liked to come out and say something as cringeworthy as that. Surely not.
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metalblue
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Cue…. Why has he got a St George’s flag? He’s not PM of England he is PM of the UK.
He’s such a tit.
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Keir Starmer can sing three verses of God Save the King, you know.
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I've already said it's reverse psychology. If Starmer thinks flags are good, that might kill all the right wing enthusiasm for defacing the country with them.
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Waving his St George's flag
Reducing families of immigrants
Saying immigration is to high
Bringing forward the closure of hotels for asylum seekers
Weak on genocide
Austerity
Old dears
The disabled
Ministers with more houses than Robbie Fowler
They voted for a fascist and a racist, but obviously the right kind of one :-)
What do you stand for today Keir?
I can't say until I've seen the news.
Adults in charge.
Anyhow anyone got a tweet showing a shaven headed white guy from a council estates so they can feel better about themselves again.
What a pickle the side takers get themselves into.
metalblue
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Like most people apparently… hands up if you’ve got a national flag proudly displayed at home!! I’m embarrassed for him.
I might venture to the spitting image reboot to see what they make of him. Farage no doubt will be a bit of a tebbit character. Certainly no shortage of material for them to make fun of.
metalblue
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Fuck off with the negatives you non believer. 17-18 year olds have got the biggest bumper pay rise ever in the history of mankind and the doctors aren’t on strike anymore…. Now go get you a Starmer flag to wave daily, like a chameleon it changes colour to blend in to whatever background it needs to.
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Makes sense.
Reverse psychology is presumably why Angela Rayner claims the property in Ashton is her primary residence for council tax purposes but isn’t when it comes to stamp duty, so that she can avoid or reduce her liabilities on both, and therefore stop other people doing the same.
And why anti-corruption minister Tulip Siddiq had that sudden epiphany on owning that flat in Kings Cross, and who actually gave it to her. Turns out it was that nice friend of her aunt after all. Plus why Rushanara Ali evicted those tenants before re-letting that property, after a big increase in the rent of course.
What’s next? Sacking Rachel Reeves next year in order to reverse the rise in unemployment? There’s hope yet.
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Is it any wonder the economy is fucked? We were told growth was (correctly!) the most important thing that the government would be focused on. The reality is very different. The first budget could not have been better constructed if destroying growth was it's prime objective.
And this is how important our illustrious leader thinks our failing economy is:
And this is how important our illustrious leader thinks our failing economy is:
Chippy_boy
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Has anyone any idea why there's apparently a court order preventing Ange from revealing what a crook she is?
Seems rather convenient. I wonder if she applied for it?
And before people try to brush aside her rank hypocrisy as being "perfectly legal, nothing to see here", it transpires that putting your home into trust whilst allowing your under 18 kids to live there, may well be in the eyes of the HMRC still count as your home for stamp duty purposes, whether in a trust or not. I.e. she's guilty of tax evasion not avoidance, and may well be liable for the additional £40k plus penalties.
Seems rather convenient. I wonder if she applied for it?
And before people try to brush aside her rank hypocrisy as being "perfectly legal, nothing to see here", it transpires that putting your home into trust whilst allowing your under 18 kids to live there, may well be in the eyes of the HMRC still count as your home for stamp duty purposes, whether in a trust or not. I.e. she's guilty of tax evasion not avoidance, and may well be liable for the additional £40k plus penalties.
UK 30 year bond yields nudging 5.7%, remember the meltdown when they were around 5% under Truss? I guess it's probably for the best to talk about other issues.
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In the absence of any plan to drive growth whatsover, I'd agree. Would it be unreasonable to think that a government that recognizes the importance of economic growth, would actually have a plan and might communicate what that plan actually is?
Alastair Campbell must be tearing his hair out.
I'm not sure why I'm bothering but main residence for HMRC is usually a choice for anyone who owns more than one property (for Capital Gains Tax exemption, whereas the rules for the higher stamp duty are based on objective criteria (based on case law). The daft thing is the right wing press getting neighbours in Ashton to say they don't see her there much - which helps prove it's not her main residence! For council tax, main residence is up to the local council to determine based on a whole raft of factors (again based not on legislation but case law). Two councils might both claim your main residence is in their area - though that's less likely now as they will now get more council tax if it's not your main residence.
[I had to edit that to reflect that "main residence" can be different for different taxes. I'm not surprised it needs a tax specialist.]
I'm frankly amazed at Tory MPs pushing this, as I'd be surprised at some of their property ownership. Farage hasn't jumped on this bandwagon, has he?
Inside Nigel Farage's £3m four home luxury property empire bought since Brexit
The self-styled man of the people has amassed a property portfolio worth almost £3million since the 2016 Brexit referendum. Our disclosures come after it was revealed that the Reform leader is earning around £700,000 a year outside Parliament
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The plan appears to be to blag it. Every generation the British people need to be reminded that Labour governments are a bit shit, but a Labour government with a 100% debt to gdp ratio and surging debt costs is a sight to behold.
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So surprised at Angela. Working class girl and has been really vocal about social justice and that those who can afford to pay their dues into the public purse. I dont get the sense she has done anything “wrong” but the hypocrisy of getting clever expensive tax advice to save a few bob certainly sticks in the craw a bit.
Chippy_boy
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And for me, it reveals one of two things, either
(a) She is so fucking thick, she had no idea that this would look really bad,
or
(b) She knew it would look like it stinks and yet went ahead anyway because she doesn't give a shit.
I'm genuinely not sure which it is. It's baffling to me how any party (and I include the Tories in this) can allow their MPs to engage in things which OPTICALLY are so damaging for the party. If I were PM and especially after the freebies scandal last year, I would have been telling my ministers that if there's anything that appears even remotely dodgy going forward, then that cannot be tolerated they will be summarily fired without warning. Elections are won and lost on the back of things like this. Once a party's reputation for sleeze is established, it's very hard to shake off. Ask the Tories!