could be both :-) (yes)I said…ah never mind I was being flippant. And has your post changed or am I imagining things?
No. It was more pointing out to you the way you refer to others that have an alternative view to your own.You think it was a good take on the Mandelson affair then?
Interesting.
I think Starmer’s nauseating political broadcast with Gary Neville should have been enough to sink him without trace.Got the Corbynistas on Sky now giving it large to Keir. Red Andy is claiming everything was known before he was appointed, Starmer cannot say he didn't know about the ongoing relationship between Mandy and Epstein after his conviction - echoing Badenoch 'what did Starmer know and when did he know it?' 'Not a single MP believes Starmer will lead them into the next election - poll ratings will be in single figures before long.' Oh dear.
All of which were in play before July 2024 in some form or other.Child sex offences? Yeah but you know we needed to keep the orange one onside like, the morality of the centrists and some of their supporters on here.
It's becoming quite a list this collateral damage.
The old
The disabled
Kids in gaza
Nonces
Tax evasion
People dying befoe they get there post office money
Shit in the water
I've very likely missed a few
It's the price you pay for low growth and high inflation:-) result.
It's impossible to expect more from Starmer, Johnson or Truss they say. Stop your moaning.
Fucking hell talk about losing any moral argument on here ever again. Well played chaps you're the same as a lot of reform voters turning a blind eye and trying to disguise what a lot of you really are.
Stay strong you could upgrade to the A6 with the sports package next year.
Your response aged well. Anyone other than Mandelson would have been preferable.They can call Starmer out all they want, but every single one of them knew what Mandelson was like before, during and after his appointment and they also know exactly why he was appointed. Mandelson is a slime ball tasked to work with other slime balls. Whatever Mandelson is, so is Trump, hence he got the job.
I mean, who else were they going to appoint? The Virgin fucking Mary? And does anyone think it makes sense for the British Govt to dismiss Mandelson on the grounds he was pally with Epstein? Might as well just have the Govt announce Trump is a sex nonce. That will go down well.
It’s too hot here to walk for an ice cream, so I might just stay around the pool. I don’t find it upsetting btw, I find it a shame that the country has been brought to this state by people such as yourself.Not sure calling Mandelson a dodgy **** and a sleazeball is defending him exactly, but still who knows, maybe it’s a sign of affection in your world of make believe and rainbow unicorns.
No idea what running a business has to do with anything either. That’s the sort of rationale that got someone like Trump elected. “0h look he bankrupted a casino, we simply must put this man in charge of the economy and have him resurrect economic policies from the Great Depression!”
I can only point out the world we live in and its realities. Mandelson got the US gig because the US elected a convicted felon and sex pest. You obviously find this upsetting, but what can I say? Life sucks.
Anyway, have a good cry and fix yourself some ice cream, it will make you feel better.
Absolute bollocks. Democrat or Republican would have made no difference to Mandelson's appointment.If America didn’t have a repulsive fucker as president then Starmer would never have given him that role.
fuck me bob, climb out of the hole your'e digging, chuck the shovel away, make a nice brew and have a lie downThe ‘moral’ right thing or the ‘practical’ right thing? Essentially, it is a choice between Realpolitik or taking a moral stance which is potentially injurious to your own interests.
On balance, I favour Realpolitik. Trump is a reality we have no choice but deal with and minimise any harm to ourselves. Do I like it? No, but I recognise the need to be pragmatic.
You pay your money and make your choice at the end of the day.
Absolute bollocks. Democrat or Republican would have made no difference to Mandelson's appointment.
fuck me bob, climb out of the hole your'e digging, chuck the shovel away, make a nice brew and have a lie down
He should resign on that alone!I think Starmer’s nauseating political broadcast with Gary Neville should have been enough to sink him without trace.
He could have played with a ‘straight bat’ as they say. He has carried on with the same old, same old lying and depending incompetent people. He has no balls for the game.You answer your own question - worst government in history for 14 years and say you can’t seriously defend Starmer for inheriting everything you’ve mentioned about the state of the country - how the hell in a year is he and Labour meant to turn all that around ? It’s going to take far more years but already there is far more investment in infrastructure, schools and buildings, they have bought down waiting lists, building houses, reformed workers rights, tackling migration etc - considering what they’ve inherited, the constant malicious bullshit from social media and the Farage base then I’d say they’ve done ok. Not that anyone’s allowed to say that anymore. Just pure attack and hate on whoever is in power .
All of which were in play before July 2024 in some form or other.
The inflation that was at 11% in 2022?
I don't need a reply as I'm just pointing out your narrow, selective, tunnel view on stuff like this.
fuck me, alastair campbell couldn't spun that load of bollocks!If America didn’t have a repulsive fucker as president then Starmer would never have given him that role.
Starmer hasn’t got long left now.Got the Corbynistas on Sky now giving it large to Keir. Red Andy is claiming everything was known before he was appointed, Starmer cannot say he didn't know about the ongoing relationship between Mandy and Epstein after his conviction - echoing Badenoch 'what did Starmer know and when did he know it?' 'Not a single MP believes Starmer will lead them into the next election - poll ratings will be in single figures before long.' Oh dear.
Another misjudged show of loyalty.Starmer hasn’t got long left now.
Maybe a few months if the Budget proves as damaging as it did last year. Perhaps a bit longer if the headwinds lift a little.
But anyone who gets things wrong as consistently as him, and creates as many problems for themselves, can’t expect to survive that long.
It was obvious that Mandelson was on borrowed time when these latest revelations hit, and yet he went into battle for him yesterday at PMQs and was humiliated at what was already a critical juncture in his tenure.