The Labour Government

[The Future’s Blue!]

As PM Starmer doesn't get a day off from being criticised. I doubt Murphy he was aware but it wouldn't have been right to take it down and pretend he didn't make the comment.

Not sure the glib remark made much difference to Starmer and he would have been spending Christmas at Chequers regardless of the situation.

The hundreds of comments in righteous indignation and quote tweets are just as bad tbh. Would have been better off ignoring it rather than amplifying it.

Just shows certain ones on the left to be cunts, and even though I voted for him as a sort of protest vote, the likes of Corbyn allowed this country to fall as quick as it did.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Just shows certain ones on the left to be cunts, and even though I voted for him as a sort of protest vote, the likes of Corbyn allowed this country to fall as quick as it did.

It's a glib comment but had nothing to do with Starmer's personal situation and he probably wasn't aware. I doubt the Murphy spends as much time listening to Radio 4 or spam refreshing news sites as others.

Not sure what Corbyn has to do with anything. Sounds like you are blaming him more than people elected to government, including one of the people who persuaded him to self-sabotage with the people's vote.

Starmer offers nothing other than managed decline at the moment.

 

[Don Karleone]

Yup, the country is in the state that it's in because of Corbyn. Kin'ell! Fuck all to do with trying the same kind of government for 40+ years.

 

[Kompany Car]

Except the equally awkward commitment not to increase income tax, NI, or VAT.

Well I'm yet to find anyone who sits on either side of the political spectrum who thinks that it was sensible to commit to no increases. It seems to be something politicians appeared to think was needed to convince the electorate, but in reality it wasn't.

Maybe political parties dont understand the electorate, which is why in general there is such dissatisfaction with, and apathy towards, politics in general.

Affordability of the state pension is not a problem for the next few years, but it will become a problem if the triple lock remains in the next 5-10 yrs.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

It's a glib comment but had nothing to do with Starmer's personal situation and he probably wasn't aware. I doubt the Murphy spends as much time listening to Radio 4 or spam refreshing news sites as others.

Not sure what Corbyn has to do with anything. Sounds like you are blaming him more than people elected to government, including one of the people who persuaded him to self-sabotage with the people's vote.

Starmer offers nothing other than managed decline at the moment.

Murphy was behind Corbyn’s economic policy, that everybody rejected out of hand, and left the country to further rot.

 

[hampshireblue]

Except the equally awkward commitment not to increase income tax, NI, or VAT.

(Till the Falklands, Thatcher's saying they wouldn't double VAT then increasing it from 8% to 15% might have been seen as more of a broken promise than the recent employers' NI increase - though I don't recall the Tory press in 1979 calling it a betrayal.)

I agree. I can never understand why politicians back themselves into a corner like this except if they don't they know the press will work on the basis that because it's not ruled out it's gonna happen. The worst example was Johnson setting a date for Brexit and us finishing up with the present shitshow to hit that date.

 

[ganganvince]

Except the equally awkward commitment not to increase income tax, NI, or VAT.

(Till the Falklands, Thatcher's saying they wouldn't double VAT then increasing it from 8% to 15% might have been seen as more of a broken promise than the recent employers' NI increase - though I don't recall the Tory press in 1979 calling it a betrayal.)

That makes it OK then.

 

[stonerblue]

Yup, the country is in the state that it's in because of Corbyn. Kin'ell! Fuck all to do with trying the same kind of government for 40+ years.

Yeah, some stretch that.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Murphy was behind Corbyn’s economic policy, that everybody rejected out of hand, and left the country to further rot.

He wasn't. He wrote some draft policies in 2015, he wasn't made a formal advisor and wasn't part of the economic advisory committee.

Murphy was an informal adviser to Corbyn,[38] though it is reported that he had hoped to have a position on the Labour Party Treasury Team.[39] Murphy said in June 2016 that those demanding a change in the Labour leadership were correct, "even if I will not agree with much of their reasoning". Corbyn had "not provided a vision of what his leadership will deliver", and concerning Labour's economic policies: "we have so far heard almost nothing that really progresses the ideas outlined last summer".[40] A few weeks later, Murphy criticised Corbyn's track record further writing "there was no policy direction, no messaging, no direction, no co-ordination, no nothing".[41][42] In a response to a question raised in the House of Commons, Labour's Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell stated with regard to Murphy "He is not the economic adviser and never has been, because we doubted his judgment, unfortunately. He is a tax accountant, not an adviser. He is actually excellent on tax evasion and tax avoidance, but he leaves a lot to be desired on macroeconomic policy".

 

[metalblue]

Regulate for profit not risk is the message for our regulators now… nothing can go wrong here.

Starmer throws down gauntlet to watchdogs with growth edict

The PM, chancellor and business secretary have written to watchdogs including Ofgem, the FCA and CMA to demand ideas for growth and investment amid sluggish economic growth, Sky News learns.

news.sky.com