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Yet I don't remember you saying high immigration was negative news. I wonder why? What could be the reason behind this complete .change in outlook? It's a mystery for sure.

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I’ve never been ‘anti’ immigration but equally I don’t pretend high levels of migration and open borders is a good thing - some form of control and balance is needed and I believe Labour are out to achieve that.
 
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I’ve never been ‘anti’ immigration but equally I don’t pretend high levels of migration and open borders is a good thing - some form of control and balance is needed and I believe Labour are out to achieve that.
Yep I still cant see a post where you state anything above the current figure is bad and needs reducing.
 
I love all the anger over the OBR letter, which was common knowledge prior to the pre and budget speech.

It’s almost as if the government has understood how the media in this country works and proper had them over.

‘Eh you guys, there’s a possible option that we may raise income tax and break our manifesto policy … even though you should already know that we’ve come in on budget ;-).’
 
Seems the big black hole labour have banged on about since coming into power has been a massive fucking lie, why does that not surprise people.
 
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You can tell it’s Friday night.
Not the weather for putting up flags.
 
No, because it was such an inane question underserving of a response AND/OR a lame attempt at baiting. But nevertheless I will indulge you to show what a daft post it was:

Here’s a clear, data-driven list of countries whose economies collapsed in a severe, systemic way — whether through hyperinflation, state failure, war, or debt defaults. I’ve included key statistics like GDP contractions, inflation levels, currency losses, and unemployment.

This is not exhaustive, but it covers the most widely recognised “economic collapses” in the modern era.

Looking at Greece specifically, they are recovering from their situation with the help of massive IMF bailout. If we go that way, the IMF cannot afford it - our economy is too big for them to save.




Major Economic Collapses (with Stats)


1. Zimbabwe (2007–2009) — Hyperinflation Collapse


Type: Complete monetary collapse, hyperinflation
Key Stats:


  • Hyperinflation peaked at 89.7 sextillion percent (10²¹%) per year (Nov 2008)
  • Prices doubled every 24 hours
  • GDP fell 17% in 2008
  • Central bank issued 100 trillion dollar notes
    Outcome:
    Abandoned its currency; switched to USD/ZAR.



2. Venezuela (2014–present) — Hyperinflation + State Collapse


Type: Hyperinflation, collapse of oil sector, institutional failure
Key Stats:


  • Inflation peaked at 10,000,000% in 2018
  • GDP contracted by ~75% between 2014–2022
  • Oil production down from 3.5m bpd (1998) to ~700k bpd (2020)
  • Poverty rate > 90%
    Outcome:
    Ongoing crisis; partial dollarisation.



3. Argentina (2001–2002) — Sovereign Default + Banking Collapse


Type: Currency crisis, default, depression
Key Stats:


  • Peso lost 75% of value in 2002
  • GDP contracted 20% in 4 years
  • Unemployment hit 25%
  • Sovereign default of $100bn (largest at the time)
    Outcome: Social and political crisis; long recovery.



4. Greece (2010–2015) — Debt Crisis


Type: Sovereign debt collapse, depression
Key Stats:


  • GDP fell 25% between 2008–2016
  • Unemployment peaked at 27.5%
  • Youth unemployment over 60%
  • Public debt > 180% of GDP
    Outcome:
    Bailouts, austerity, long-term stagnation.



5. Soviet Union (1990–1992) — Systemic Collapse


Type: Complete economic + political disintegration
Key Stats:


  • GDP contracted 40% in early 1990s (post-collapse)
  • Industrial output fell 50%
  • Inflation exceeded 2,500% in 1992 (Russia)
    Outcome: End of USSR; transition shock.



6. Weimar Germany (1921–1923) — Classical Hyperinflation


Type: Hyperinflationary collapse
Key Stats:


  • Prices doubled every 3.7 days
  • Inflation reached 29,500% per month (late 1923)
  • 1 USD = 4.2 trillion marks by Nov 1923
    Outcome: Currency replaced by the Rentenmark.



7. Yugoslavia (1992–1994) — World’s Worst Hyperinflation


Type: Hyperinflation + civil war
Key Stats:


  • Inflation of 5 × 10¹⁵% per month (Jan 1994)
  • Prices doubled every 34 hours
  • Currency redenominated 5 times
    Outcome:
    Currency collapse; country dissolved.



8. North Korea (1990s) — Famine + Economic Collapse


Type: State collapse + famine
Key Stats:


  • GDP fell by ~35% between 1990–1998
  • Famine deaths: 600,000–2,000,000
  • Industrial output collapsed by 50%
    Outcome:
    Partial recovery later, but chronic stagnation.



9. Lebanon (2019–present) — Banking + Currency Collapse


Type: Currency crash, banking insolvency
Key Stats:


  • Lebanese pound lost ~98% of value
  • Inflation over 200% annually
  • GDP shrank from $55bn (2018) to $23bn (2021)
  • Poverty > 70%
    Outcome:
    Ongoing severe crisis.



10. Sri Lanka (2022) — First Sovereign Default in History


Type: Forex crisis, energy collapse
Key Stats:


  • Foreign reserves fell to $50m
  • Inflation hit 70%
  • Economy contracted 7.8% in 2022
    Outcome:
    IMF programme; partial stabilisation.



11. Iceland (2008–2010) — Banking System Collapse


Type: Entire banking sector failed
Key Stats:


  • Banking assets = 10× national GDP collapsed
  • GDP contracted 10%
  • Krona fell ~50%
    Outcome:
    Capital controls; surprisingly fast recovery.



12. Myanmar (2021–present) — Coup-Induced Collapse


Type: Political collapse + economic freefall
Key Stats:


  • GDP fell 18% in 2021 alone
  • Currency depreciated 50%
  • Inflation over 30%
    Outcome:
    Ongoing conflict, collapse continues.



13. Haiti (multiple periods) — State Failure


Type: Political instability, economic collapse
Key Stats (recent decade):


  • GDP per capita now lower than in the 1970s
  • Inflation ~ 50%
  • State capacity nearly nonexistent
    Outcome: Chronic instability.
Yes, I get that countries collapse like that, but they aren't bankrupt. Governments create money when they need it. Hyperinflation is the result when it gets out of hand, but they aren't bankrupt in the sense you or I would be if we ran out of money and couldn't service our debts. We cant, as individuals, create money.

You said in an earlier post we were, as a country, heading for bankruptcy. I merely pointed out that it is impossible.
 

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