The Labour Government

blueinsa said:
Labourpool FC is never a good look.
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If Reeves is proven to have lied I agree she should go.

Just pointing out that other labour cabinet ministers that have resigned have been treated differently compared to a Tory cabinet of grifters and liars that came before it.

A better example is Farage. There's very little media outrage about his casual racism and 27 jobs. Along with his love of Putin.
 
TinFoilHat said:
If Reeves is proven to have lied I agree she should go.
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They all lie mate. All the time. Labour, Tory, Lib Dem, SNP, you name it, they do it.

It’s not about telling fibs, it’s about time they just told the honest truth to the public. The public expects Labour governments to do one thing and that’s tax and spend.

Instead of telling us that’s exactly what they will do they gaslight us insisting it’s not happening lol.

Just be honest and then let the dice roll accordingly polls wise.
 
If its true that Reeves has lied about the black hole then she needs fucking off, if Starmer knew about it then he needs to go as well and a GE held.
 
bluethrunthru said:
watching TV today and the same people who were saying pre-budget " there is a £20bh black hole that Reeves caused with her first budget" are now saying " there never was a black hole she lied " with a straight face. Their mental gymnastics are astounding
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That’s right.

Why would anybody have had the impression that the OBR’s next set of forecasts, particularly after they revised down their productivity assumptions, would show a deterioration in the public finances.

It’s a complete mystery, isn’t it?
 
Brewster's millions said:
That’s right.

Why would anybody have had the impression that the OBR’s next set of forecasts, particularly after they revised down their productivity assumptions, would show a deterioration in the public finances.

It’s a complete mystery, isn’t it?
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pillar of rectitude this OBR ....strange it seems determined to sabotage our government
 
I'm just your normal average UK citizen, one of the workers whose not rich but did all the 'right things' in regard to staying within my means, saving for my retirement and being employed since I left school.
So, its a sobering thought that doing the right thing has meant that I will never ever be entitled to any benefits unless my life completely collapses and I literally lose everything down to a point where I drop low enough to qualify - even if I lost my job tomorrow I would not be entitled for anything for a very long time and should I need a care home I would have to lose my house and savings for the pleasure.
The question is, why did I bother?
Some of these jobless, layabout baby factories will have been awarded in a few short years my entire life's worth for doing nothing and they will get free care homes and funerals
 
johnny crossan said:
pillar of rectitude this OBR ....strange it seems determined to sabotage our government
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I think that’s a strange take, and unfair on the OBR.

It’s debatable whether they deliberately leaked the Budget documents on the morning of Reeves’ speech. It was a pretty tasty way to get one over Reeves if it was done deliberately, but I don’t think it was. The head of the OBR is an experienced, senior former Treasury official and I don’t think he would have sanctioned it given that it would be the end of his career if it were proven that he had done so deliberately. More likely that an inexperienced staff member, not used to dealing with time and market sensitive material, made a mistake.

Other than the early release of the documents on Budget day, I can’t see why they’d be open to criticism, given that they were only doing their jobs in the usual manner.

The problems sit entirely with the behaviour of the Chancellor, the prime minister and other officials within the Treasury. First leaking even the fine detail of the OBR’s annual supply-side appraisal to the press, and then using this to provide a misleading and dishonest impression of the evolution of the OBR’s fiscal forecast overall.

If Reeves had acted honestly and with integrity, and indeed professionally, then none of this would have happened. But both she and Starmer chose to mislead people in order to provide cover for an increase in taxes that would be used to bribe their backbenchers. None of that was the OBR’s doing.
 
Pancake Arse said:
I'm just your normal average UK citizen, one of the workers whose not rich but did all the 'right things' in regard to staying within my means, saving for my retirement and being employed since I left school.
So, its a sobering thought that doing the right thing has meant that I will never ever be entitled to any benefits unless my life completely collapses and I literally lose everything down to a point where I drop low enough to qualify - even if I lost my job tomorrow I would not be entitled for anything for a very long time and should I need a care home I would have to lose my house and savings for the pleasure.
The question is, why did I bother?
Some of these jobless, layabout baby factories will have been awarded in a few short years my entire life's worth for doing nothing and they will get free care homes and funerals
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Do you have kids? Gift them the house now. God forbid you ever become disabled, but if you do, you will receive benefits then.

Why would you not get benefits if you lost your job?
 
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