The Labour Government

[mackenzie]

Let’s just say JDs are well protected by the system.

I've always thought they work incredibly hard and have terrible hours, but she scoffed at the suggestion.
I didn't know what to believe to be honest so just dropped the subject.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Let's hope Reeves starts to lower interest rates by a point or two to get the construction and house building sector moving again. She is going to need to to build all those houses in Starmers plan.

be great news for those that were forced to lock in at 5/6 % for the next 2-5 years.

 

[kaz7]

We had to settle the doctors strike if we want to have a chance of cutting waiting lists , bigger picture here

 

[metalblue]

As I remarked in another forum, the Tories held down public sector wages artificially for more than a decade, out of spite, ignorance, or sheer hatred of the public sector. We are now reaping the harvest and it won't be pretty. There will be what the market calls in other circumstances 'an adjustment.' This could easily have been avoided by paying just a bit more each year, and that would also have saved the costs of a recruitment crisis.

Many so-called 'savings' are in fact either deferrals (kicking the can down the road) or transfers (e.g. lack of road maintenance, where costs are passed to private individuals and insurance companies.)

It’s also allows private sector pay to stagnate or [relatively] go down.

Think how much the treasury would be gaining now in tax receipts and reduced in work top-ups.

Reeves ideally would have gone with a pledge to restore pay over 5 years at 5% a year + inflation. It would have been infinitely better than what went before, cheaper for her overall and less of a shock to all concerned. Anyroad what’s done is done and we wait for the possible knock on effects.

 

[MouldensChippy]

Trouble brewing for Streeting, there is a sense he has pitted NHS workers against each other with the junior doctor rise versus 5.5% for rest and there is a lot of anger from nurses and ward staff today. He’s going to need to move to head off industrial action from those on AfC (ward clerks, nurses, HCA’s, domestics etc) as they all want their pay restoration now. Gone is the sense of NHS unity of all being fucked over together. Mrs MB said in work today they are all talking about strike action, she said the anger is much worse than when they actually went out on strike.

Unless Streeting is a fucking idiot he would have known this risk existed. If he has gambled that it will blow over he may well lose that bet and if it blows up the nurses don’t appear to be in the mood to want to play nicely this time with a feeling of let the fucking junior doctors stick on an apron and do our work until we get what they got.

Wilson got it wrong, a day, not a week, is a long time in politics.

I highly doubt that it will be restricted to NHS only. Every Union Officials ears would have pricked up with the same phrase, "why not us, and our members ?"

 

[metalblue]

We had to settle the doctors strike if we want to have a chance of cutting waiting lists , bigger picture here

Fuck all chance of reducing them lists with the HCA’s and nurses out - the clinics won’t run and those lists will get a whole lot longer. At best they will maintain ward numbers to allow for emergency care, ring fencing certain services won’t happen this time to anything like the same extent as they know what they’ve got to do if they want a pay rise now which is bring the system to a halt. That’s the new picture here.

 

[BayernMan]

 

[metalblue]

I highly doubt that it will be restricted to NHS only. Every Union Officials ears would have pricked up with the same phrase, "why not us, and our members ?"

For sure mate, teachers, fire etc etc. It’s bonkers when you think about it that they get above inflation pay awards yet we still might have a proverbial “winter of discontent” and that’s solely down to a very bullish pay award to junior doctors and now the gloves are off, the next 12 months are going to be interesting. I get why he wanted it done, perhaps it just proves the old saying that no good deed goes unpunished.

 

[MouldensChippy]

For sure mate, teachers, fire etc etc. It’s bonkers when you think about it that they get above inflation pay awards yet we still might have a proverbial “winter of discontent” and that’s solely down to a very bullish pay award to junior doctors and now the gloves are off, the next 12 months are going to be interesting. I get why he wanted it done, perhaps it just proves the old saying that no good deed goes unpunished.

Why not, after all everyones wages have been subject to the same kind of devaluation, and a precedent has just been set !

 

[Blue Maverick]

I would advise any young person to start putting money away for their private pension asap. The SIPP is a good one, but take advice if you're in doubt. Your retirement may seem a long way away, but it soon creeps up on you. It's well worth missing a few gigs, or even holidays, if that's what it takes.

Don't leave yourself reliant on the state as the way things are going the state will give you SFA, and you don't want to spend your last 20-30 huddling over a candle and eating cold baked beans.

You will, work until you die in 50 years pal, I wouldn’t even worry about it anymore, they can put the state pension age up 1 year every 10 so by 2050 it will be 70.