I disagreed with the start, then went onto disagree with the middle and i disagreed at the end. The man is a fucking fruitcake.What part of his speech did you disagree with?
And yet you replied to me within minutes and with the thoughts of another poster because you have none of your own. It's seems we have little good to say about each other so let's leave it there. No need for further communication.Not at all. You don't post any of your own views other than when it gets to over population and Immigration.
Sounds a lot like you're an antinatalist who doesn't practice what he preaches. Only pointing this out to you.
You're just pale imitation of Mr Cheese.
I honestly couldn't give a toss about anything you say as you're a pub bore without two brains cells to rub together and rarely offer anything of insight. "Purples" is an example of this.
That's the story of Sure Start. Took a decade to bear fruit then abandoned by the Tories.You’ll get no arguments from me about education being paramount. The problem as I see it is politicians know these seismic shifts in policy don’t pay dividends for 30 years plus, long after they are not in power, but the price needs to be paid today. It seems to me that politics today is so much based on being able to measure progress within a parliament and we, the voters, are probably to blame.
And yet you replied to me within minutes and with the thoughts of another poster because you have none of your own. It's seems we have little good to say about each other so let's leave it there. No need for further communication.
Let's see if you can at least manage that:, I'm figuring not.
I disagreed with the start, then went onto disagree with the middle and i disagreed at the end. The man is a fucking fruitcake.
I would love it if somebody came to prominence in the Labour party who had the balls to tell America to get to fuck, close all your bases in the UK and fuck off.
If Vance wants to lecture people about free speech perhaps he should get on a flight to Moscow and try these tactics there and see how that goes down?I disagreed with the start, then went onto disagree with the middle and i disagreed at the end. The man is a fucking fruitcake.
I would love it if somebody came to prominence in the Labour party who had the balls to tell America to get to fuck, close all your bases in the UK and fuck off.
The problem is a lot of people in the UK think that because the Yanks speak English they are 'us'.
They are not. They are a foreign power and not a benevolent one. It's America First Second Third and Fourth with them.
Let's see them for what they are. If Trump hasn't opened your eyes, nothing will.
Close the US bases? Do you think that would improve UK security and do a better job of containing Putin?I disagreed with the start, then went onto disagree with the middle and i disagreed at the end. The man is a fucking fruitcake.
I would love it if somebody came to prominence in the Labour party who had the balls to tell America to get to fuck, close all your bases in the UK and fuck off.
Why wouldn’t the US have a US first policy?The problem is a lot of people in the UK think that because the Yanks speak English they are 'us'.
They are not. They are a foreign power and not a benevolent one. It's America First Second Third and Fourth with them.
Let's see them for what they are. If Trump hasn't opened your eyes, nothing will.
We need to replace them with British capability. To be honest it wouldn't surprise me if Trump closes them in the next four years. He's taking an axe to all spending what he feels doesn't offer value for money. Where do you think Vances speech is going to end up?Close the US bases? Do you think that would improve UK security and do a better job of containing Putin?
If Trump wants to revert to pre-1941 isolationism, I'm fine with that.Why wouldn’t the US have a US first policy?
Personally, I would like to radically increase government spending on our armed forces and produce a step change in their numbers and capabilities.We need to replace them with British capability. To be honest it wouldn't surprise me if Trump closes them in the next four years. He's taking an axe to all spending what he feels doesn't offer value for money. Where do you think Vances speech is going to end up?
I think you have to be detached from reality to argue that the US isn’t a friend of the UK.If Trump wants to revert to pre-1941 isolationism, I'm fine with that.
But then the USA must not interfere in our affairs, or those of Europe. It must disengage entirely. And we and Europe must make our own arrangements.
What I am saying is that the USA is no friend of ours. De Gaulle recognised this years ago. We, in the UK, continued to be deluded. Having a common language (more or less) is a distinct disadvantage. It blinds people to reality.
I red the thread subject, what has Trump got to do with the Labour Party?
How much US military capability is present in the UK is an interesting question, I don't know is my answer, although as am educated guess I would say it's nowhere near what it was 30 or 40 years ago. Several US bases have closed since then. At a guess I would say it's probably 3 or 4 squadrons of fighters and some early warning planes? I suspect we could replace that within a decade of increased defence spending.Personally, I would like to radically increase government spending on our armed forces and produce a step change in their numbers and capabilities.
I would also like to radically reduce government spending in other areas, so that expenditure can be redirected to defence, but I expect that such a view would place me in a tiny majority on here. So I think there’s little to no chance of people on here, or across the current government for that matter, committing to the levels of defence spending that would allow us to replace the capabilities of the American bases in the UK.
The whole argument is effectively null and void, unless of course people want the UK’s defences to be materially diminished.
Makes us less of a nuclear targetClose the US bases? Do you think that would improve UK security and do a better job of containing Putin?
Two peoples divided by a common language.If Trump wants to revert to pre-1941 isolationism, I'm fine with that.
But then the USA must not interfere in our affairs, or those of Europe. It must disengage entirely. And we and Europe must make our own arrangements.
What I am saying is that the USA is no friend of ours. De Gaulle recognised this years ago. We, in the UK, continued to be deluded. Having a common language (more or less) is a distinct disadvantage. It blinds people to reality.
Makes us less of a nuclear target