The Labour Government

Churchlawtonblue said:
Steel production surely has to be of national critical importance. Both governments has stated this in the past. Now it's just been binned. What's nearly as annoying is the complete lack of understanding of what we are actually losing when this is being reported by the likes of the BBC and the other national media organisations.
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It was binned when the Tories allowed it to be sold off for £1 to a foreign nation .... we can no longer produce our own material to make ships / tanks etc


What a mess
 
Chippy_boy said:
Mathematically correct perhaps (I don't know) but almost certainly not correct in reality since a very large proportion of that group would I am sure, decide not to pay it. Since tax for people that well off is pretty much a voluntary thing, and if they feel the rates are too high, they just move things around so they don't have to pay.
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HMRC already know who the majority of these people are, quite simply you dont give them time to "move things around". Dont pay, liquidate their known assets in the same way as they would other people.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
Steel production surely has to be of national critical importance. Both governments has stated this in the past. Now it's just been binned. What's nearly as annoying is the complete lack of understanding of what we are actually losing when this is being reported by the likes of the BBC and the other national media organisations.
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They are building electric arc furnaces aren’t they? I’d rather they keep some primary steel too but it’s not being binned completely and we’ve got a surplus of steel for recycling.
 
meltonblue said:
They are building electric arc furnaces aren’t they? I’d rather they keep some primary steel too but it’s not being binned completely and we’ve got a surplus of steel for recycling.
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Electric Arc Furnaces don't make high grade steel as you state they just recycle scrap steel. The steel simply isn't as good. If we all have surplus steel why are all the other G14 nations keeping their blast furnace capacity?

The only other blast Furnace is at Scunthorpe and there are advanced plans to close that aswell. So we will lose all primary steel making capacity.
 
city2 said:
Time we had a AI government programmed to answer questions honestly , they would need no expenses , no heating allowances, no second homes, no eating and drinking allowances, no daily payments for turning up to go to sleep, no private jets, no ministerial cars, winner winner black hole fixed.
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Since there’s no political party out there for me or people like me at all, I’d vote for that in an instant.

‘Labour’ (fake-Labour, not-Labour, whatever name would be more appropriate for them) are already showing more of the same as what’s gone before. Going after the wrong people, cronyism, laughably hypocritical ideas, doing things they would have lambasted the Conservatives for doing… when these first few months should have been a breeze for them after that last lot that were in power. They didn’t need to do anything big at all until the budget, why did they make the Winter fuel allowance thing such a big deal so early on?*
But they seem to have gone out of their way to piss everyone off!


*when that sort of thing happens in politics, it’s usually because they’re doing something abhorrent in the background and making a big story out of something else to draw everyone’s attention away from the even shitter thing they’re doing on the sly. Been the same with every Labour and Conservative government for decades. Wonder what it is!
 
meltonblue said:
They are building electric arc furnaces aren’t they? I’d rather they keep some primary steel too but it’s not being binned completely and we’ve got a surplus of steel for recycling.
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I really wonder if any of the public actually did science at school. You are absolutely correct, you cant make primary steel without a blast furnace and there are certain types of specialist steel that arc furnaces are unable to produce.

Not long ago everyone realised how precarious international supply chains were when Covid hit, but it seems to have been quickly forgotten. In an unstable world retaining even just a token percentage of your ability to manufacture from raw materials could make all the difference.
 
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