The Labour Government

BobKowalski said:
I’m pro free trade, pro Europe, pro immigration, no borders, capitalist. I also believe in a strong welfare state and health service and I am very liberal on social issues.
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Hertzblue said:
Here's me thinking it was our reliance on imported gas and the impact of the war in Ukraine and Green levies when all along it was those damn capitalists .
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Have you not seen how much profits energy companies are making? That’s not by accident.

That’s why the energy companies pulled back from green investment when they talked the previous government(s) into rescinding the target dates. Why invest in renewables when they make an absolute fortune off what they already have in the ground, even if it does harm the people of this world.

Like anything, unless they can monetise it to its max, they want nothing to do with it.

Fossils!
 
BobKowalski said:
I’m pro free trade, pro Europe, pro immigration, no borders, capitalist. I also believe in a strong welfare state and health service and I am very liberal on social issues.

To be honest, I thought my views were pretty clear from my posts.
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I must admit i was very surprised you worked in the city, its probably a clichéd view from watching Gordon Gekko, The Wolf of Wall street and every documentary on traders tbh. A city trader with a social conscious is like a boxing buddha:-)

I'm surprised you're not a bit more critical of Starmer. Unlike the others I think you are more right leaning than I thought you were before Labour won the election.
 
BobKowalski said:
I’m pro free trade, pro Europe, pro immigration, no borders, capitalist. I also believe in a strong welfare state and health service and I am very liberal on social issues.

To be honest, I thought my views were pretty clear from my posts.
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hilts said:
I must admit i was very surprised you worked in the city, its probably a clichéd view from watching Gordon Gekko, The Wolf of Wall street and every documentary on traders tbh. A city trader with a social conscious is like a boxing buddha:-)

I'm surprised you're not a bit more critical of Starmer. Unlike the others I think you are more right leaning than I thought you were before Labour won the election.
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You’re not entirely wrong. The City in my experience (it may have changed as I’m talking 80’s/90’s) had two distinctive types - Posh boys and Essex boys. The latter were more Thatcherite than Tory and the Posh boys were more traditional Tory. But you would be hard pushed to find much social conscience in either group!

I enjoyed it at the time. Mind you, looking back I was a total dick. So, not a lot has changed I guess :)
 
Chippy_boy said:
Ripping all your central heating pipes out, installing new, redecorating and installing new radiators is non-trivial, profit or no profit.

Also since when did the government demonstrate they were more efficient and cost effective at doing anything whatsoever? Let alone heat pump installations.
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Running the East Coast Main Line? Twice.

Before privatising state monopolies?
 
Wealth tax, put up income tax by 1p, restore the rise in personal allowance, we can all be in it together then, they need to stop pussyfooting about and U-turning more than United’s season.
 
Some good business news this morning. The CFOs of some the largest UK companies are reporting that the UK is now top for further and future inward investment, up from 6th at the turn of the year. Apparently being first to do a trade deal with the US has eclipsed the effects of the rise is in employer's NI. Report and interview was on Radio 4 at 0715 this morning. Let's hope it continues. Surprisingly there's been no mention of it from Nick Ferrari on LBC.
 
hampshireblue said:
Some good business news this morning. The CFOs of some the largest UK companies are reporting that the UK is now top for further and future inward investment, up from 6th at the turn of the year. Apparently being first to do a trade deal with the US has eclipsed the effects of the rise is in employer's NI. Report and interview was on Radio 4 at 0715 this morning. Let's hope it continues. Surprisingly there's been no mention of it from Nick Ferrari on LBC.
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Ferrari to busy goading listeners with small boats and promoting Farage.
 
hampshireblue said:
Some good business news this morning. The CFOs of some the largest UK companies are reporting that the UK is now top for further and future inward investment, up from 6th at the turn of the year. Apparently being first to do a trade deal with the US has eclipsed the effects of the rise is in employer's NI. Report and interview was on Radio 4 at 0715 this morning. Let's hope it continues. Surprisingly there's been no mention of it from Nick Ferrari on LBC.
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Did they name the companies? I am cynical of the BBC.
 
hampshireblue said:
Not all 70-no. It was part of the daily business update and I'm sure if it was incorrect it will get reported as such later on by other
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I didn’t listen this morning and do hope the statement is true. Having just cancelled my licence, you can tell I am not a fan.
 
hilts said:
It's pretty much the same people that at first denied it was happening, then it was happening but it wasn't man made, then it was man made but its not as serious as its being made out, then it was serious but we can't do anything about it, then we can do something about.it but someone else should sort it, then its we could sort it a bit but let's step back because it costs too much and we are a bit skint.
Obstacles for decades and without any kind of self awareness that people like them have slowed down progress, every step is a fucking battle, every protest in frustration is met with selfish arseholes complaining about being late for work and other such trivial shit.
No matter how this goes and it ain't gonna be good just comfort yourselves that you made it worse than it needed to be. If you're still around and are asked by a grandkid or someone else just be honest.
You were more concerned about not being inconvenienced, your bank balance and the Beemer was to die for.

Cunts, that is all.
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You missed out, overhyped, which it is.

0.5m sea level rise over 100 years, we will cope.

AI is going to cause massively more disruption and quite possibly human extinction, something climate change can never do. And yet dangers of AI get nothing like the media coverage.

At the very least, it's going to put billions of people out of work. Yes billions.

Moreover a new artificial super intelligence could conceivably kill every human much, much sooner. This is a realistic possibly in much less than 100 years, arguably 20 years. This might be a remotely unlikely possibility, or a cast iron, nailed on certainty. No-one knows.
 
hampshireblue said:
Some good business news this morning. The CFOs of some the largest UK companies are reporting that the UK is now top for further and future inward investment, up from 6th at the turn of the year. Apparently being first to do a trade deal with the US has eclipsed the effects of the rise is in employer's NI. Report and interview was on Radio 4 at 0715 this morning. Let's hope it continues. Surprisingly there's been no mention of it from Nick Ferrari on LBC.
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Their endorsement is on face value, good news, but at the same time, puzzling.

I am very dubious if the above is the consensus view. Nothing has changed for the better here in the UK from an employers' perspective (except for NI exemption if you want to hire an Indian immigrant.)
  • NI costs have gone up significantly - not just rates but also increasing the numbers for whom it's payable
  • Workers' rights increase employers' risks and costs
  • Can no longer hire people on zero hours; inflation
  • Interest rates and energy costs remain high
  • Lack of economic stability with possibility of forthcoming tax hikes and even change to fiscal policies with a new chancellor
  • Possibly it's even more difficult for employers to hire necessary staff, since net migration has come down.
It's important to talk the economy up, not down - a mistake Starmer made in his first few months. But I'd be interested to know where they pulled these super optimistic CFOs from, and their voting tendencies.
 
hampshireblue said:
Some good business news this morning. The CFOs of some the largest UK companies are reporting that the UK is now top for further and future inward investment, up from 6th at the turn of the year. Apparently being first to do a trade deal with the US has eclipsed the effects of the rise is in employer's NI. Report and interview was on Radio 4 at 0715 this morning. Let's hope it continues. Surprisingly there's been no mention of it from Nick Ferrari on LBC.
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Don't tell chippy, his little head will explode.
 
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