Manchester33
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And the much bigger point is that benefit fraud is a drop in the ocean compared to tax evasion/avoidance in the private sector and waste/corruption within the public sector.
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hilts
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No harm looking at all 3 if done correctly especially as we don't know how much benefit fraud costs.And the much bigger point is that benefit fraud is a drop in the ocean compared to tax evasion/avoidance in the private sector and waste/corruption within the public sector.
Manchester33
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True, but it’s interesting how benefit Fraud (which will literally be less than 1% of Tax Evasion/Avoidance) is spoken about in the media more regularly.No harm looking at all 3 if done correctly especially as we don't know how much benefit fraud costs.
It’s a blatant attempt to turn all of us on each other while the super rich continue offshoring their wealth.
It has always been there. Rightly or wrongly. Nothing to do with social media, some news channels or whatever.True, but it’s interesting how benefit Fraud (which will literally be less than 1% of Tax Evasion/Avoidance) is spoken about in the media more regularly.
It’s a blatant attempt to turn all of us on each other while the super rich continue offshoring their wealth.
My Grandfather, in about 1960, disliked the guy next door (this was in the old terraced streets of Salford) who never did a days work because of a bad back but still managed to beat the shit out of his wife every night. Until my Grandad told him that if he ever heard it again then he would do the same to him.
No-one has ever said to cut benefit fraud to fund tax cuts for the rich. Only a Toryboy on Bluemoon.I dunno what did those real truthful.people on the doorstep tell you;-)
hilts
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I agree apart from the 1% part, how would they know? If they are trying to cut benefit fiddling there must be people claiming that they currently have down as legit otherwise who are they going after?True, but it’s interesting how benefit Fraud (which will literally be less than 1% of Tax Evasion/Avoidance) is spoken about in the media more regularly.
It’s a blatant attempt to turn all of us on each other while the super rich continue offshoring their wealth.
For instance if I'm faking an ailment and getting benefits I'm currently classed as genuine. You see why the figure is nonsense.
We know that the self employed avoid a lot of tax but the govt and no-one else could actually give a figure on it. Anecdotally we know its gonna be a lot of money but that's about it.
It's undoubtedly a very emotive subject.You bothered to respond to the post. You just didn't bother reading it I guess?
And for those who are genuine (like Kaz seems to be) it's hard to see that there might be those who aren't.
But they definitely exist.
Churchlawtonblue
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People say benefit fraud is peanuts on here but by the government's own figures it's £7.3billion. And as others have pointed out could be a lot higher. That is clearly a lot of money and to suggest otherwise is nonsense.
stonerblue
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great.We could cut the higher rate of income tax by 5%-pts with that money.