The Labour Government

Prestwich_Blue said:
Also Truss & Raab were Foreign Secretaries. Makes you weep when you look at previous ones, with some of the great names in British politics in that list.

Also wasn't Lord Halifax broadly in favour of an accommodation with Hitler?
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Truss and Rabb, sounds like a Dickensian Undertaker’s. The world must have been looking in thinking, what the actual F are the Tories trying to do? Sink our standing? Cut us off from the largest market on the planet? Give donors and mates billions for PPE, that would never work? Lie through their crooked teeth? Leave us with neither piss or a pot in reserve? Cancel that new rail track, costing billions? Fucking off back from Normandy to talk about his tormented childhood, minus Sky? A sweepstake by wealthy Tory MP men to cheat by backing the election date? Having people in positions of influence, who are that fucking greedy and thick, they thought they would get away with it? If they are, the Tories have knocked it out the fucking park.

Historians will look back and wonder how we survived such idiocy and self destruction.
 
kaz7 said:
I understand but lets have five mins on how starmer has taken the defeat in 2019 and turned it into a landslide , a really big achivement
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On the face of it, it’s a landslide: the majority in the HofC is unarguable; but scratch beneath the surface and a whole load of intrigue starts to emerge.

I think the electorate have started to develop a much stronger taste for tactical voting.

As a result, at the next GE Labour will face vast swathes of seats where 2nd place isn’t Tory. They’ll be a real mix of Reform, Green, Lib Dem, Independent etc.

When the exit poll was announced I was cock-a-hoop, but that’s been somewhat tempered as the background to this victory has unfolded.

It’s been wonderful watching Cooper et al walk down Downing Street today to form the cabinet. But the political air seems stranger than ever. Fascinating!
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Truss & Raab were Foreign Secretaries. Makes you weep when you look at previous ones, with some of the great names in British politics in that list.

Also wasn't Lord Halifax broadly in favour of an accommodation with Hitler?
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Oh and yes, he wanted tea and biscuits with Hitler. He would have had a white towel with him. Promise Old Adolf a Knighthood and an estate in Scotland. Great views. Who wouldn’t he tempted with that. Although, with a second front gone Hitler wouid have defeated Russia and then came calling once he had rebuilt his armed forces. He would give back the towel. Not a complete loss for us.
 
johnnytapia said:
On the face of it, it’s a landslide: the majority in the HofC is unarguable; but scratch beneath the surface and a whole load of intrigue starts to emerge.

I think the electorate have started to develop a much stronger taste for tactical voting.

As a result, at the next GE Labour will face vast swathes of seats where 2nd place isn’t Tory. They’ll be a real mix of Reform, Green, Lib Dem, Independent etc.

When the exit poll was announced I was cock-a-hoop, but that’s been somewhat tempered as the background to this victory has unfolded.

It’s been wonderful watching Cooper et al walk down Downing Street today to form the cabinet. But the political air seems stranger than ever. Fascinating!
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It’s definitely intriguing and if the way Labour targeted its campaign anticipated this then the campaign was a stroke of genius. Hopefully they will govern with same level of detailed consideration. Got to be better than government by slogan.
 
johnnytapia said:
On the face of it, it’s a landslide: the majority in the HofC is unarguable; but scratch beneath the surface and a whole load of intrigue starts to emerge.

I think the electorate have started to develop a much stronger taste for tactical voting.

As a result, at the next GE Labour will face vast swathes of seats where 2nd place isn’t Tory. They’ll be a real mix of Reform, Green, Lib Dem, Independent etc.

When the exit poll was announced I was cock-a-hoop, but that’s been somewhat tempered as the background to this victory has unfolded.

It’s been wonderful watching Cooper et al walk down Downing Street today to form the cabinet. But the political air seems stranger than ever. Fascinating!
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Definitely some strange undertones to this one, particularly with the rise of Reform. If you're the next leader of the Tories, you'd presumably want to bring back the Reform voters. And Farage will know that.

Someone like Braverman will probably want to get the two parties as close as possible, even up to a merger. But they could also try to steal Reform's thunder by moving even further to the right but ignoring Reform. That may mean some more traditional, one-nation Tories could desert them.

On the other hand, Labour could also do something sensible about immigration, possibly by setting up processing centres in France. That would mean anyone trying to avoid using one, and using small boats, could automatically be classed as an illegal, and dealt with accordingly. That could significantly dilute the immigration issue and that's seemingly all that Reform have to offer.
 
jazzy said:
I will trump you with Lammy he is probably the worst choice ever for foreign secretary
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Worse than Dominic Arab?

I didn't neglect my duties during the evacuation of Afghanistan and go surfboarding because the beach was closed.

Worse than James Cleverly?

Replaced with a failed PM who had to be made a Lord just to take the job.

Worse than Boris Johnson?

Who had to be told by his diplomats not to mumble offensive colonial era literature in Indian places of worship and met Russian Oligarchs without his minders?

Worse than Liz Truss....?
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Worse than Dominic Arab?

I didn't neglect my duties during the evacuation of Afghanistan and go surfboarding because the beach was closed.

Worse than James Cleverly?

Replaced with a failed PM who had to be made a Lord just to take the job.

Worse than Boris Johnson?

Who had to be told by his diplomats not to mumble offensive colonial era literature in Indian places of worship and met Russian Oligarchs without his minders?

Worse than Liz Truss....?
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Bang on. Horrible criminals all.
 
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