The Labour Government

[Kirkstall Blue]

Fellas something much more important has happened. Pep has signed an extension!! Get in!

Nothing is more important than Pep staying I wasn’t ready for the upheaval if he left woo hoo!

 

[metalblue]

Just announced huge cuts to the defence budget, good job there's no threat to the country at the moment

That’ll make Trump happy. 48 drones worth £5m each, 31 helicopters and 5 warships including a frigate. Plus a hint of more to come.

The announcement, while uncomfortable, is designed to be the least damaging way to reduce costs while retaining capability.

Uncomfortable isn’t a word I’d use to describe it.

UK to scrap warships, military helicopters and fleet of drones to save money despite threats abroad

Defence Secretary John Healey announced the move in parliament on Wednesday, saying it would save up to half a billion pounds over the next five years.

news.sky.com

 

[meltonblue]

That’ll make Trump happy. 48 drones worth £5m each, 31 helicopters and 5 warships including a frigate. Plus a hint of more to come.

The announcement, while uncomfortable, is designed to be the least damaging way to reduce costs while retaining capability.

Uncomfortable isn’t a word I’d use to describe it.

UK to scrap warships, military helicopters and fleet of drones to save money despite threats abroad

Defence Secretary John Healey announced the move in parliament on Wednesday, saying it would save up to half a billion pounds over the next five years.

news.sky.com

If you read the detail, you can see why they’re doing it. They do need to get a move on with the strategic review, not sure when they said they’d complete it by.

 

[metalblue]

If you read the detail, you can see why they’re doing it. They do need to get a move on with the strategic review, not sure when they said they’d complete it by.

Due in the spring. You really want them to announce it all together. The optics are poor. Alternatively looking to announce the cuts pre Trump and it’s a master stroke.

 

[meltonblue]

Due in the spring. You really want them to announce it all together. The optics are poor. Alternatively looking to announce the cuts pre Trump and it’s a master stroke.

Given he doesn’t go into the detail himself you might be right. The optics look a lot worse than the reality with it.

 

[blueinsa]

That’ll make Trump happy. 48 drones worth £5m each, 31 helicopters and 5 warships including a frigate. Plus a hint of more to come.

The announcement, while uncomfortable, is designed to be the least damaging way to reduce costs while retaining capability.

Uncomfortable isn’t a word I’d use to describe it.

UK to scrap warships, military helicopters and fleet of drones to save money despite threats abroad

Defence Secretary John Healey announced the move in parliament on Wednesday, saying it would save up to half a billion pounds over the next five years.

news.sky.com

Just in from work.

Let me guess, “difficult decisions”?

Putin and North Korea alongside China building whilst we cut!

 

[inbetween]

Soz mate but this is untrue and why the tax is being brought in. For some years farmland has been worth what somebody will pay for it if they are looking for a tax dodge its returns as a farm is less relevant as how much the value of that land will increase as other speculators look for land to invest in.

The tax targets a very specific group specifically and that's probably for the right reasons but in the end I just can't say I'm bothered because the amount it will raise is meaningless. So really this is ideological and in the end it will only reduce the appeal of this government.

Why didn't they cushion the blow by reinvesting some of the tax money back into farms given farming subsidies are all on their arse post-Brexit? They haven't because they don't care about farmers anyway.

52% now have an unfavourable opinion of this government, it was 25% on the day of the election. They've now announced defence cuts, chuck that on the WFA removal, are they on a mission to piss off literally everybody?

 

[kaz7]

The tax targets a very specific group specifically and that's probably for the right reasons but in the end I just can't say I'm bothered because the amount it will raise is meaningless. So really this is ideological and in the end it will only reduce the appeal of this government.

Why didn't they cushion the blow by reinvesting some of the tax money back into farms given farming subsidies are all on their arse post-Brexit? They haven't because they don't care about farmers anyway.

52% now have an unfavourable opinion of this government, it was 25% on the day of the election. They've now announced defence cuts, chuck that on the WFA removal, are they on a mission to piss off literally everybody?

Did you really not think things wouldnt get worse before they get better , the country is fucked , not one dept has been run right for 14 yrs , i know the tories dont like to hear it but it is their fucking fault

 

[bluenova]

The tax targets a very specific group specifically and that's probably for the right reasons but in the end I just can't say I'm bothered because the amount it will raise is meaningless. So really this is ideological and in the end it will only reduce the appeal of this government.

Why didn't they cushion the blow by reinvesting some of the tax money back into farms given farming subsidies are all on their arse post-Brexit? They haven't because they don't care about farmers anyway.

52% now have an unfavourable opinion of this government, it was 25% on the day of the election. They've now announced defence cuts, chuck that on the WFA removal, are they on a mission to piss off literally everybody?

Didn't the budget announce an extra £5bn over the next two years for the farming industry? That's significantly more than the IHT changes will bring in.

Given that the IHT changes are likely to cut down on land being bought to avoid inheritance taxes rather than for farming, and once the dust settles, most farmers will realise they aren't affected, I'm not sure how you can argue they haven't done anything, and don't care.

 

[meltonblue]

Just in from work.

Let me guess, “difficult decisions”?

Putin and North Korea alongside China building whilst we cut!

To be fair, the reason they’re being scrapped is so that we can build.