The Labour Government

[west didsblue]

I take him seriously, so your wrong there clever clogs

You don’t count.
And it’s you’re, thicko.

 

[Bluesince1979]

Says someone on the politics thread of a football forum.
YCNMIU.

Do we not all have an interest in politics?
Do we not like to talk about it and know what the crack is?

Doesnt mean im ‘into’ politics you crank

 

[west didsblue]

There's a reform on steroids?

Apparently. Google them yourself.

 

[Bluesince1979]

If you want to go after the MPs who claim allowances even though they own places near London....

Rayner will now have to vacate the grace and favour flat, so might be making the late night commute to Brighton more than she does.

In any case, the Brighton flat is still the only property she actually owns and it was never her primary residence for any purpose which is why she pays double council tax on it.

I'm only defending against nonsense.

Mate youre killing yourself here

 

[Vic]

I thought you were aguing that she COULDN'T get to the constituency? I agree she'll be there all the time, in the house she has no legal right to be in. HAHAHAHAHAHA. This is marvellous stuff, it really is. I need to calm down.


But not Rayner's nonsense. Hahahaha. Stop it, this is killing me.

Treating this with the seriousness it doesn't deserve, she can't get to the constituency every night when Parliament is sitting.

You've said she's lying about Ashton being her primary residence. Has she ever said anything different? Being kind (to you) are you imagining that because she assumed the Ashton house didn't count for higher stamp duty that meant the flat in Brighton must be her primary residence (for that purpose)? (Edited: even then, it's not just where you spend most time: see Frost v Feltham.)

If a house you don't own can be regarded as a house you do own for stamp duty purposes, why would it not be regarded as main residence for other purposes?

 

[heslops barnet]

Totally irrelevant.

You should be a politician

 

[Bluesince1979]

If you want to go after the MPs who claim allowances even though they own places near London....

Rayner will now have to vacate the grace and favour flat, so might be making the late night commute to Brighton more than she does.

In any case, the Brighton flat is still the only property she actually owns and it was never her primary residence for any purpose which is why she pays double council tax on it.

I'm only defending against nonsense.

What bit was nonsense ?

You have a thing for ange dont you.

Dirty man

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I' m not sure what Starmer is up to. If he thought appointing Lammy as Deputy PM was a good idea he is more out of touch than I realised. Should have appointed Streeting

Isn't it just a temporary position? Maybe the idea was to appoint someone who isn't likely to be in the running for it.

 

[hilts]

Apparently. Google them yourself.

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[west didsblue]

Do we not all have an interest in politics?
Do we not like to talk about it and know what the crack is?

Doesnt mean im ‘into’ politics you crank

So you have an interest in politics but you’re not “into” politics, even though you like talking about it.
And I’m the crank?

 

[Bluesince1979]

She’s been a bit dumb not checking knowing how she is hated but ….
Hunt avoids £100k of Stamp Duty
Sunak wife 'non dom' status
Zahawi underpays millions in tax and pays a fine
Mone PPE - no resolution over millions

Rayner - given wrong advice over £40k of Stamp Duty - loses everything

What advice do you think she sought?

Whether she could avoid the tax?
Of whether avoiding it was wrong?
Or something else ?

 

[west didsblue]

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Thanks for the offer but I’d rather buy a couple of pints of Holts with the tenner and laugh at them now I know who they are and who might vote for them.

 

[Ashton Moss Messi]

Would she still have been Deputy PM if she’d paid the right stamp duty?

I doubt it would have happened so quickly but a wounded Tory party probably doesn't have any MP more recognisable than her.
She was a top target and scored a massive own goal for the sake of 40 grand.
Made it easier for the Mail to deliver the telling blow.

 

[moomba]

You should be a politician

Why? Because I believe that people should be judged on what they do, not what someone else did.

 

[Earlyriser]

Isn't it just a temporary position? Maybe the idea was to appoint someone who isn't likely to be in the running for it.

you may well be right but I'm sure the media will interpret it in that way

 

[meltonblue]

What advice do you think she sought?

Whether she could avoid the tax?
Of whether avoiding it was wrong?
Or something else ?

Assuming from the ethics report she didn’t ask any of those as if she did, she’d have been found to have not been acting with integrity too.

 

[Ashton Moss Messi]

What advice do you think she sought?

Whether she could avoid the tax?
Of whether avoiding it was wrong?
Or something else ?

Check the letter from the Ethics Adviser.

BBC News - In full: Rayner, PM and ethics adviser's letters on her resignation

Angela Rayner resignation letter and Sir Keir Starmer reply in full

Rayner says she "deeply regrets" her conduct over Hove property, while PM says he's "very sad".

www.bbc.com

Spells it out well that the advice she took said they weren't tax experts and she should get expert advice.
She didn't do this (for whatever reason) and believed she was paying tax correctly.

 

[Vic]

No-one with a brain is buying that BS pal. I even showed you the HMRC guidance which proved that your statement saying unoquivocally that she was only caught out because of the age or her child, was wrong. Just plain wrong. That you cannot admit it, says a lot.

Was that the guidance that referred to a minor child?

 

[Ashton Moss Messi]

How many back handers to rise to the top ???

Would you be saying the same about an MP who has a PPE first from Oxbridge, after an internship with Daddy's friend who happened to be a minister.

Don't fall for the "thick northerner can't progress based on skills" rhetoric.
John Prescott turning in his grave.

 

[frothy]

Angela's real crime was to be a down-to-earth northerner who left school as a single mum, lived in a council house on an estate, worked in a low pay job for the council and had the outright cheek to rise to the highest ranks of government, talking to Oxbridge types with a northern bluntness and commoner's accent.

Giving hope to all who didn't have the silver spoon.

FFS, yes and tried to save shit loads of money in tax on a house in Hove 250 miles away from Ashton and Dukinfield. But she was caught and tried using her disabled son as a excuse for her incompetence