The Labour Government

If the minimum wage is say 12.50 an hour for 40 hours that equates to 500 quid a week about 2 000 pound a month My state pension is a lot less than half that amount Am I supposed to go cap in hand and try to claim other hand outs. Never been unemployed in my life . It seems that the less you do the more you get and of course you learn how to get everything you are entitled to. Add to that the working class mentality of not wanting to be seen as a scrounger from the state
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Best tax reform they could do is to treat couples as a single tax entity.
A couple, both earning £51k get over £900 more, per month, than one of them earning £102k, which is madness.
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So a couple working twice the hours of a single person should not be better rewarded by the tax system?
 
Chippy_boy said:
That would discourage people from getting married, which would also be madness.

I was on the receiving end of the injustice you cite though.

Prior to my retirement, I was fortunate to earn over £125k per year most years (and my wife did not work), which meant that we got no personal allowance whatsoever, and paid circa 85% of my pay at 40% tax rate. Vs my neighbours who worked for the NHS, earning about 60k each. That meant they both got a £12.5k personal allowance, and paid nearly all of their income tax at 20%.

Although our households earned the same, the difference in our net income was stark. £93k take home for them vs my £78k. I know I should not complain about such a figure, but our houses are the same - we live on a housing estate - and there is 2 of them and 2 of us. Yet we were vastly worse off.

To put it another way, on these figures, they were around £60 per day better off than us, just because of the tax system. Galling, to say the least. And they got a much better pension and more holidays.
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I finally understand the Politics of Envy.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
It’s a pointless exercise that, far from doing anything useful, will lead to people being arrested for ‘not carrying it’. It’ll be sold as a way to ‘stop illegal migration’ but will, of course, do no such thing.
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I've heard absolutely nothing so far that provides a solid case for why we should spend money on this rather than the legion of other priorities the country has. That and the lack of reference to something so significant in a manifesto from only a year ago suggests this is simply the panicked and wasteful politicking of a floundering administration.

My expectations of this government are now so low that possibly the best we can hope for is that they manage to avoid handing Reform an outright victory next time round.
 
John John said:
If the minimum wage is say 12.50 an hour for 40 hours that equates to 500 quid a week about 2 000 pound a month My state pension is a lot less than half that amount Am I supposed to go cap in hand and try to claim other hand outs. Never been unemployed in my life . It seems that the less you do the more you get and of course you learn how to get everything you are entitled to. Add to that the working class mentality of not wanting to be seen as a scrounger from the state
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So you want minimum wage cutting or state pension to rise? The latter costs to do so. Taxes would need to rise to do so-happy with that? I assume that as you are drawing state pension and never having been unemployed, you took maximum advantage of the tax breaks by paying into a company/personal pension?
 

UK population increased by more than 750,000 in 12 months - mostly due to migration​

We've just had some data from the Office for National Statistics on the UK's population growth.

This covers the period from June 2023 to June 2024.

The key points are:

  • Population increased by 755,254, from 68.5 million to 69.3 million;
  • Of this, an estimated 738,718 were people immigrating - equivalent to 98% of the increase;
  • In total, 1,235,254 people are estimated to have come to UK - while 496,536 left;
  • Births added only 16,239 to the UK - with 662,148 people being born in the 12 month period, and 645,909 dying.
This is the second largest numerical jump in population since at least 1949, when comparable data began.

It is only beaten by the 890,049 increase that took place in the 12 months prior from mid-2022 to mid-2023.
 
Scottyboi said:

UK population increased by more than 750,000 in 12 months - mostly due to migration​

We've just had some data from the Office for National Statistics on the UK's population growth.

This covers the period from June 2023 to June 2024.

The key points are:

  • Population increased by 755,254, from 68.5 million to 69.3 million;
  • Of this, an estimated 738,718 were people immigrating - equivalent to 98% of the increase;
  • In total, 1,235,254 people are estimated to have come to UK - while 496,536 left;
  • Births added only 16,239 to the UK - with 662,148 people being born in the 12 month period, and 645,909 dying.
This is the second largest numerical jump in population since at least 1949, when comparable data began.

It is only beaten by the 890,049 increase that took place in the 12 months prior from mid-2022 to mid-2023.
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That's an absolutely insane figure, absolute madness
 
hampshireblue said:
So you want minimum wage cutting or state pension to rise? The latter costs to do so. Taxes would need to rise to do so-happy with that? I assume that as you are drawing state pension and never having been unemployed, you took maximum advantage of the tax breaks by paying into a company/personal pension?
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With 3 kids and a mortgage there was never much left over for a private pension
 
bluemoon32 said:
That's an absolutely insane figure, absolute madness
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It seems like we have to suck it up. Nobody in government gives a fuck about it . It never affects them or the civil service (who run the country) with their extremely generous pensions . This is not going to end well for any of us
 
Scottyboi said:

UK population increased by more than 750,000 in 12 months - mostly due to migration​

We've just had some data from the Office for National Statistics on the UK's population growth.

This covers the period from June 2023 to June 2024.

The key points are:

  • Population increased by 755,254, from 68.5 million to 69.3 million;
  • Of this, an estimated 738,718 were people immigrating - equivalent to 98% of the increase;
  • In total, 1,235,254 people are estimated to have come to UK - while 496,536 left;
  • Births added only 16,239 to the UK - with 662,148 people being born in the 12 month period, and 645,909 dying.
This is the second largest numerical jump in population since at least 1949, when comparable data began.

It is only beaten by the 890,049 increase that took place in the 12 months prior from mid-2022 to mid-2023.
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The numbers are ridiculous and completely unsustainable. We dont have the infrastructure and there seems to be no long term planning at all.

We’ve had more immigration recently than the last 1000 years or so. Who actually voted for this or wants it?
 
Scottyboi said:

UK population increased by more than 750,000 in 12 months - mostly due to migration​

We've just had some data from the Office for National Statistics on the UK's population growth.

This covers the period from June 2023 to June 2024.

The key points are:

  • Population increased by 755,254, from 68.5 million to 69.3 million;
  • Of this, an estimated 738,718 were people immigrating - equivalent to 98% of the increase;
  • In total, 1,235,254 people are estimated to have come to UK - while 496,536 left;
  • Births added only 16,239 to the UK - with 662,148 people being born in the 12 month period, and 645,909 dying.
This is the second largest numerical jump in population since at least 1949, when comparable data began.

It is only beaten by the 890,049 increase that took place in the 12 months prior from mid-2022 to mid-2023.
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I don’t know. Bloody Tories :)
 
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