The Labour Government

[WRicko]

You'd said "enquiries don’t work in this country aside from politicians not implementing the changes they suggest"

Labour said that there'd been an inquiry (Jay) and they were implementing its recommendations (whereas Johnson had called it spaffing millions up the wall, and Truss and Sunak - and Badenoch as minister for women - had done nothing).

A new inquiry into child sexual exploitation isn't needed – but government action is | Institute for Government

There should not be a new inquiry into child sexual exploitation.

www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk

Labour instead got Baroness Casey to review what had been done and what more needed to be done - presumably not expecting her to say there should be another national inquiry (thus proving her independence). People have then gone mad over what she actually recommended ("keep it focussed", "make it wider", "ignore white grooming gangs", "include non-gang CSE - i.e. within families") and the whole issue is now a "political football" ("We won" - Badenoch) - indeed some survivors being used thus.

So I'm suggesting that Labour's approach (pre-Casey) had been right - no "national" inquiry but do more local inquiries like Telford. https://www.telford.gov.uk/children...nto-telford-child-sexual-exploitation-iitcse/

I still don’t see your point.

Maybe I over stated things or you don’t understand me. Maybe your taking me to literal.

Didn’t say anything about the government. I agree with what they have done. We probably did need an enquiry even tho it won’t work. I didn’t mentioned regional enquirers I think that they were a good idea but it looks like some councils wouldn’t do them. So didnt work. I don’t initially see the point

We had an enquiry which you mention which you admit didn’t work just like I said. Changes where not implement which you admit and the current government are implementing them apparently but we don’t know yet. We are now having a new enquiry which won’t please anyone not the racists, it won’t bring justice. It will be too narrow or too wide in scope. It’s currently going nowhere.

Previous enquiries didn’t work how longs Covid taking ? Grenfell ? What’s happens to the cladding ?

What seems to happen is we have weeks of victims testifying then the experts finally tell us something and then not much changes

 

[WRicko]

Everything to do with every government not just this one, the release of prisoners goes right up to the prison governor who signed off on the release, several stages of staff sign the documents.

The crisis is down to not enough staff loss of staff because of violence and who wants to do a job like that for the the money the staff earn

The lad was stood outside for one and a half hours he didn’t know where to go. He’s still making his way to the detention centre:)

So staff made and mistake and this is the governments fault because ?

 

[hampshireblue]

£111m given to Pakistan for family planning! Just sums this government up!!!

This was first reported in 2022. Oh, and it was total aid of £112m to India and Pakistan of which £12m was for contraception. So not this government at all but our old mate Boris.

It's not been a good foray for you into the politics forum has it?

Next!!!

 

[meltonblue]

This was first reported in 2022. Oh, and it was total aid of £112m to India and Pakistan of which £12m was for contraception. So not this government at all but our old mate Boris.

It's not been a good foray for you into the politics forum has it?

Next!!!

It was actually implemented in 2017 and runs to 2028.

 

[Gray]

Is that a surprise to you? I was saying on here in the run up to the referendum that the result of leaving the EU would mean that nobody there would care. We were giving them the perfect way out of any responsibility for stopping people coming here because we were voting our way out of returning them.

Of course the common response was I didn't know what I was talking about and Project Fear.

They would still be coming whether we were in the EU or not.

 

[WRicko]

They would still be coming whether we were in the EU or not.

Yes but the Dublin agreement would have made a difference

 

[WRicko]

I was wondering where to post this, but it seems like it's being discussed in here more than elsewhere. Hopefully, he will be locked up again soon if he continues like this.

Why has no one managed to phone the police on him or even do a citizens arrest ?

What about the delivery guy at the prison who has decided to publicize the fact he saw it all happen yet didn’t bother ringing the police

 

[bluethrunthru]

They would still be coming whether we were in the EU or not.

There were very few recorded small boat crossings pre-Brexit, with the numbers being negligible until around 2018, two years after the 2016 referendum. For example, one report states there are no records of small boat asylum claims before 2018, and another notes that only around 100 arrivals were recorded in 2016.

• Before 2018: Small boat crossings were rare. Some crossings were recorded in 2016, with numbers around 100 arrivals. Other attempts to reach the UK illegally at this time primarily involved stowing away on lorries and ferries, not small boats.
• After 2018: The number of crossings began to increase significantly. This rise is linked to the UK's departure from EU returns agreements, which made it harder to return asylum seekers to other EU countries.
• Increased Crossings: The trend of increasing small boat crossings continued after 2018, with numbers rising dramatically in the following years

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Why has no one managed to phone the police on him or even do a citizens arrest ?

What about the delivery guy at the prison who has decided to publicize the fact he saw it all happen yet didn’t bother ringing the police

Very strange. Record him on your phone, post it on SM, yet forget to contact the authorities.

 

[WRicko]

Very strange. Record him on your phone, post it on SM, yet forget to contact the authorities.

Almost like the people who want him gone the most wants him on the street so they can complain about the government even tho it’s the prisons fault not the governments next we will find out the governor the delivery guy and person recording this all vote reform

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Almost like the people who want him gone the most wants him on the street so they can complain about the government even tho it’s the prisons fault not the governments next we will find out the governor the delivery guy and person recording this all vote reform

It’s just all very strange. Somebody actually gave an order to release him, and then who would release him without going to the very top to confirm.

Did nobody question it or was it just a case of mistaken identity?

The mind boggles.

 

[hampshireblue]

I was wondering where to post this, but it seems like it's being discussed in here more than elsewhere. Hopefully, he will be locked up again soon if he continues like this.

He's probably at Royal Lodge getting some clothes from Andrew Windsor.

 

[Don Karleone]

FWIW, I wasn't using it to have a go at this government. I don't blame them here.

 

[mosssideblue]

There were very few recorded small boat crossings pre-Brexit, with the numbers being negligible until around 2018, two years after the 2016 referendum. For example, one report states there are no records of small boat asylum claims before 2018, and another notes that only around 100 arrivals were recorded in 2016.

• Before 2018: Small boat crossings were rare. Some crossings were recorded in 2016, with numbers around 100 arrivals. Other attempts to reach the UK illegally at this time primarily involved stowing away on lorries and ferries, not small boats.
• After 2018: The number of crossings began to increase significantly. This rise is linked to the UK's departure from EU returns agreements, which made it harder to return asylum seekers to other EU countries.
• Increased Crossings: The trend of increasing small boat crossings continued after 2018, with numbers rising dramatically in the following years

Weren’t boat crossings increasing as a result of the crackdown on tunnel crossings?

 

[Brewster's millions]

There were very few recorded small boat crossings pre-Brexit, with the numbers being negligible until around 2018, two years after the 2016 referendum. For example, one report states there are no records of small boat asylum claims before 2018, and another notes that only around 100 arrivals were recorded in 2016.

• Before 2018: Small boat crossings were rare. Some crossings were recorded in 2016, with numbers around 100 arrivals. Other attempts to reach the UK illegally at this time primarily involved stowing away on lorries and ferries, not small boats.
• After 2018: The number of crossings began to increase significantly. This rise is linked to the UK's departure from EU returns agreements, which made it harder to return asylum seekers to other EU countries.
• Increased Crossings: The trend of increasing small boat crossings continued after 2018, with numbers rising dramatically in the following years

If you ask AI a daft question, you get a daft answer.

I thought that was @hampshireblue ‘s job around here anyway?

 

[One Fan Clapping]

I’m not a Labour voter but it’s not even the worst government in the last five years, let alone a generation.

Give it time!

WASPI women. Pensioners. Farmers. Grooming gangs. Inflation. Welfare benefits. Green investments. Nationalisation of railways. Tax dodging Deputy. Massive increase in illegal immigration.

Liar.

And the pièce de résistance is yet to come. Taxing the workers when he pledged not to do so.

He’s a c**t.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Weren’t boat crossings increasing as a result of the crackdown on tunnel crossings?

Ok - lets look at Migration watch who love migrants (not)- they do a graph for people who prefer pictures to reading - answers the same - 299 people in 208 up to 40k plus in 2022 - you can slice and dice it how you want but post Brexit they rocketed

Channel Crossing Tracker | Migration Watch UK

Illegal Maritime Arrivals From Safe Countries. Since 2018, illegal immigrants (many of whom make a claim for asylum) have been attempting to enter the United Kingdom by crossing the English Channel in small boats, often using inflatable dinghies.

www.migrationwatchuk.org

 

[BTH]

Give it time!

WASPI women. Pensioners. Farmers. Grooming gangs. Inflation. Welfare benefits. Green investments. Nationalisation of railways. Tax dodging Deputy. Massive increase in illegal immigration.

Liar.

And the pièce de résistance is yet to come. Taxing the workers when he pledged not to do so.

He’s a c**t.

Guessing you kept very quiet for the previous 14 years?

 

[mosssideblue]

Ok - lets look at Migration watch who love migrants (not)- they do a graph for people who prefer pictures to reading - answers the same - 299 people in 208 up to 40k plus in 2022 - you can slice and dice it how you want but post Brexit they rocketed

Channel Crossing Tracker | Migration Watch UK

Illegal Maritime Arrivals From Safe Countries. Since 2018, illegal immigrants (many of whom make a claim for asylum) have been attempting to enter the United Kingdom by crossing the English Channel in small boats, often using inflatable dinghies.

www.migrationwatchuk.org

Why the sarcasm

 

[mosssideblue]

Give it time!

WASPI women. Pensioners. Farmers. Grooming gangs. Inflation. Welfare benefits. Green investments. Nationalisation of railways. Tax dodging Deputy. Massive increase in illegal immigration.

Liar.

And the pièce de résistance is yet to come. Taxing the workers when he pledged not to do so.

He’s a c**t.

Hi Kemi. Wishful thinking there dear