The Labour Party

[urban genie]

have the left lost its sense of humour and you never answered me?

Have they come out yet?

No btw not one in sight.

 

[Fame Monster]

Did you ask the same of johnsons promises the last few weeks?
As he seems to think the country can afford it while giving tax breaks so I am guessing labour have weighed up the same conundrum and found a solution

I didn't ask it but I thought exactly the same.

Genuine question or is it just by borrowing?

 

[blueinsa]

Did you ask the same of johnsons promises the last few weeks?
As he seems to think the country can afford it while giving tax breaks so I am guessing labour have weighed up the same conundrum and found a solution

Steal from the rich to give to the poor?

Robin hood...robin hood...riding through Chelsea.....

 

[OB1]

Provide more scholarships. Make it 50% scholarships. And why only the really talented? Most of those who attend are bang average or have private tuition but get the benefits because their parents have the means. Give places to those that are bang average without the means. If you can afford it you pay full whack plus VAT and subsidise the rest I means it’s a charity right?

Look you can sit around and do nothing and accept the system which means there is always a 60% chance the next PM will come from one bleeding school or a 40% chance they will come from a handful of others. I mean either these schools just lucked out and got the exceptionally talented through the door or the game is rigged. Given the current shitshow I'm going for the latter. You reckon this is healthy? If you were devising a system for getting the best and brightest to lead the country would you ensure the odds were the PM came from one school?

50% scholarships is not practicable. Who is going to pay for that?

How do you know most of the kids at private school are bang average? That certainly was not the case at my daughters' school as it was selective. Putting average kids in there so they can be bottom of the class and potentially struggling to keep up with the pace would hardly be a clever idea.

 

[Rascal]

Fabulous speech, so much promise after years of Tory neglect.

Good delivery, set the tone well, smashed it.

The peoples flag is deepest red.

 

[urban genie]

I didn't ask it but I thought exactly the same.

Genuine question or is it just by borrowing?

It was by more than just borrowing, investment nationally not just in London, taxation of big bisiness, closing loopholes.

Also the interesting comment in the speech

"Labour will tackle this. We will redesign the system to serve public health – not private wealth – using compulsory licensing to secure generic versions of patented medicines. We’ll tell the drugs companies that if they want public research funding then they’ll have to make their drugs affordable for all. And we will create a new publicly owned generic drugs manufacturer to supply cheaper medicines to our NHS, saving our health service money and saving lives".

 

[OB1]

The cost is irrelevant, its the law.

The cost is not irrelevant.

Kids in private school reduce the financial burden on the state of providing education.

 

[Rascal]

I didn't ask it but I thought exactly the same.

Genuine question or is it just by borrowing?

Some tax rises, some borrowing certainly.

Borrowing has been turned into a dirty word by the Tories, but if you want to build you have to borrow. If you buy a house you get a mortgage after all.

From what he has talked about, the investment is well targeted which will mean it will get a return through the multiplier effect. It is sensible and realistic.

No doubt, the usual suspects will be along shortly with their Marxist comments.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Fabulous speech, so much promise after years of Tory neglect.

Good delivery, set the tone well, smashed it.

The peoples flag is deepest red.

Mate, there was some good stuff in there, but it was a terrible speech, I gave up after a while and I wanted to hear what he had to say.

He's a dreadful orator.

 

[blueinsa]

It was by more than just borrowing, investment nationally not just in London, taxation of big bisiness, closing loopholes.

Also the interesting comment in the speech

"Labour will tackle this. We will redesign the system to serve public health – not private wealth – using compulsory licensing to secure generic versions of patented medicines. We’ll tell the drugs companies that if they want public research funding then they’ll have to make their drugs affordable for all. And we will create a new publicly owned generic drugs manufacturer to supply cheaper medicines to our NHS, saving our health service money and saving lives".

Now that is a policy that is long needed and worth voting for.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Wonderful leader our Mr Corbyn will be, change is coming fuck austerity ??for the many not the few.vote labour and get rid of these twats in power once and for all.

Fabulous speech, so much promise after years of Tory neglect.

Good delivery, set the tone well, smashed it.

The peoples flag is deepest red.

As a former Labour voter I will never vote for them under Corbyn. He is the worst leader they have ever had. To have a circa -70% approval rating against this government and to be bound to lose an election against this government is totally unforgivable.

 

[blueinsa]

Mate, there was some good stuff in there, but it was a terrible speech, I gave up after a while and I wanted to hear what he had to say.

He's a dreadful orator.

He is.

By all means applaud the content and sentiment but a performer he is not and never will be unless Dianne can tell us differently...?

 

[urban genie]

As a former Labour voter I will never vote for them under Corbyn. He is the worst leader they have ever had. To have a circa -70% approval rating against this government and to be bound to lose an election against this government is totally unforgivable.

Yeah but your opinion is part of the -70% approval rating that in turn makes you dissaprove of him.

And after reading all the things labour wish to do in government compared to what we have had foisted upon us by the tories, you then are helping labour to the loss you predict and the country carry on being fucked over, just because "you don't like corbyn".

This is bigger than one person, this is about the countries future, the UK is about party politics not personalities.

 

[urban genie]

He is.

By all means applaud the content and sentiment but a performer he is not and never will be unless Dianne can tell us differently...?

I go past the person and look at the policy personally, if it is Jeremy putting them forward or someone else I am not fussed either way.

 

[Rascal]

The cost is not irrelevant.

Kids in private school reduce the financial burden on the state of providing education.

That is totally different to my point. The state by law has to provide education, the cost of that is irrelevant as it is the law to do so.

People who send their kids to private schools do not reduce the burden, because the provision is already there by law. whether the parents choose to take up that provision provided is up to them, but it is already in existence, by law of the land.

One of the arguments against free schools was that they would provide provision that already existed. If you have a school that provides education for a community then why would opening a second school offering similar provision help in any way as the provision was already there.

 

[blueinsa]

I go past the person and look at the policy personally, if it is Jeremy putting them forward or someone else I am not fussed either way.

Your political maturity is a shining light to us all.

I still think he is a useless **** that is incapable of becoming our PM.

 

[Rascal]

Mate, there was some good stuff in there, but it was a terrible speech, I gave up after a while and I wanted to hear what he had to say.

He's a dreadful orator.

He is no Michael Foot granted, but he was good and is getting better.

 

[blueinsa]

That is totally different to my point. The state by law has to provide education, the cost of that is irrelevant as it is the law to do so.

People who send their kids to private schools do not reduce the burden, because the provision is already there by law. whether the parents choose to take up that provision provided is up to them, but it is already in existence, by law of the land.

One of the arguments against free schools was that they would provide provision that already existed. If you have a school that provides education for a community then why would opening a second school offering similar provision help in any way as the provision was already there.

Thats right there is provision and space for over 600,000 kids just waiting lol.

You dont half talk some shite at times.

"the cost is irrelevant" ffs.

 

[The perfect fumble]

He is no Michael Foot granted, but he was good and is getting better.

When you're 70 does anything get better?

;-)

 

[Rascal]

As a former Labour voter I will never vote for them under Corbyn. He is the worst leader they have ever had. To have a circa -70% approval rating against this government and to be bound to lose an election against this government is totally unforgivable.

Fair enough, if you don't approve of his policies don't vote for them. If you don't approve of him but like his policies then that's just daft.