The Labour Party

Give me someone who isn't offering more austerity and condoning genocide. Not arsed who.
Very fair if you see it like that. The first part, there will be no choice at first but I think that will soon change. For the second, at least he was first to listen to his party and change the message, calling for a cease fire.

I’m not sure what he will bring and can only go off listening to all they have to say. Either way, most now think it’s inevitable and we will get to understand over the next term.
 
Do you think that's why he's done it? Really?

My comment was partly in jest, but it is self evident that there is more scope (and money) for his career opposing a Labour Govt under Starmer then supporting it, or remaining in the tent and offering coded criticism. He has a vocal and active constituency to service.

There is nothing wrong in having a vocal left community trying to keep Labour ’honest’ as they see it. The political landscape is pretty much baked in for the next five years, so people reacting to this reality, as Jones is doing, is as predictable as it is inevitable.
 
My comment was partly in jest, but it is self evident that there is more scope (and money) for his career opposing a Labour Govt under Starmer then supporting it, or remaining in the tent and offering coded criticism. He has a vocal and active constituency to service.

There is nothing wrong in having a vocal left community trying to keep Labour ’honest’ as they see it. The political landscape is pretty much baked in for the next five years, so people reacting to this reality, as Jones is doing, is as predictable as it is inevitable.
Everything is a grift ..... apart from more PFI and outsourcing.
 
What’s your problem with copying this rule?

Is it literally just the fact the Tories invented it?

The rule means absolutely nothing. We had this all explained 3 weeks ago after the budget.
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