Haahahahahahaha. It is for you, obviously. You stated categorically that the party's position was to campaign for remain. It isn't.
Do you need a shovel, or are you digging by hand?
In a referendum I said they will campaign for remain, and I still think they will.
Nope.
You said the Labour party's official position was to campaign for remain. Not "I think they will". You said it was policy and I asked you for evidence of that assertion, and you provided none. You still haven't.
Going for the JCB, I note.
I'll repeat the question: aren't private schools usually not-for-profit enterprises?
And on balance it's the best policy.
The extremes have the virtue of clarity, but very little else.
They have charitable status which gives them the tax breaks. This has been the subject of debate given the high fees charged make it more an exclusive club beyond the reach of most than a charity and on the recent review it was decided that there need only be a token benefit for the less well off. It’s a high end business masquerading as a charity. Hammond tried to end some of the tax breaks but May losing her majority in 2017 put paid to that.
Aye, the problem lies when you start looking into the things he's been talking about and realise he hasn't thought them through properly.McDonnell is very impressive whenever he talks.
McDonnell is very impressive whenever he talks.
Yeah I guess. Not sure it will work but at least we are going in the right direction. A year ago we would have bitten Labour’s hand off for a second referendum.
It has charitable status because they offer scholarships and bursaries to talented but no so well off youngsters.
If they remove the charitable status and add vat to the fees then all it will do will make private schools even more elitist. Those who pay to send their kids to the day schools around gtr Manchester are middle class hard workers and they will not be able to afford it or aspire to do it.
Meanwhile the exceptionally wealthy who send their kids to rugby, eton or westminister will not give two figs and will continue to afford to send their kids to that school.
You will end up with a even smaller group of over privileged children and the divide will be even bigger.
I'm deeply critical of Corbyn, but on this rare occasion I will agree with his stance. If Labour go into the next election promising to campaign for remain, they are telling all leave voters essentially to fuck off. They can't do that. A promise of seeking a deal that will pass the HoC, and one that won't torpedo the economy, and then putting it to the general public to decide if that is what they want or not seems the most pragmatic sensible path for me. So fair play on this one. As the saying goes, even a stopped clock gets the right time twice a day.We would.
Labour can only win if the election is not all about Brexit.
They couldn't go in to an election promising to negotiate a deal and then say they'd campaign against it in a referendum. So they've promised a referendum with remain on the ballot along side their negotiated deal, it's not perfect, but then nothing about Brexit is.
This can work, whether it will is another matter.
Agree about the being in power bit, but honestly mate, it would really help you IMO if you stopped looking at things through such cynical eyes.
I absolutely refuse to accept that anything other than a tiny, tiny (potentially nil) faction of MPs go into politics for anything other than a genuine desire to make Britain a better place. I even accept that McDonnell has his heart in the right place, no matter how completely and utterly misguided he may be.
Tory ministers can typically get £500k a year (or more) jobs on company boards. What on earth would they be doing farting about on an MP's pay, if personal gain was the objective. it really makes no sense whatsoever.
I have said previously, we look at education as a provision, we should look at it as an investment. It would have the same rewards as any capital spending. We just have a wrong headed approach.
The better educated the kids are, the better educated the workforce will be, so that investment will long term reap rewards in productivity and GDP growth.
I'm deeply critical of Corbyn, but on this rare occasion I will agree with his stance. If Labour go into the next election promising to campaign for remain, they are telling all leave voters essentially to fuck off. They can't do that. A promise of seeking a deal that will pass the HoC, and one that won't torpedo the economy, and then putting it to the general public to decide if that is what they want or not seems the most pragmatic sensible path for me. So fair play on this one. As the saying goes, even a stopped clock gets the right time twice a day.
What board of what company would you put Chris Grayling or Diane Abbott on?
The problem for both parties is that they’ll be fighting the election with very obvious splits and contradictions. Which the media will exploit to the limit. It will be impossible to move the debate away from Brexit if every day senior MPs are contradicting each other. With Labour, large numbers of MPs will be emphasising that they are a Remain party, but others will be trying to hold onto leave voters and Corbyn will be getting splinters in his backsideThis tactic is really a scenario of having no choice for Labour. They have to give the chance to remain but cannot go all out for leave as they’ll alienate too many leave voters.
They’ll probably lose many as it is to the right wing parties but they’ll retain many remainers and may get those who voted leave but don’t want the chance of no deal.
Well well well. The false messiah's now *Refrainer in chief*Corbyn is being effectively sidelined here on brexit and Labour are remain.
There's exceptions to every rule, clearly!
I’m not sure how anyone without bias can look at the performance of our MPs and not be cynical, a lot of Tories get highly paid jobs because they are MPs it’s very much networking. If you can justify the treatment of the disabled and social care under the the Tories and explain how this makes Britain a better place I’m all ears. If you’re whipped into voting for policies that are just plain cruel whatever reason you got into politics has faded drastically.
What board of what company would you put Chris Grayling or Diane Abbott on?