hilts
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They always do
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Don Karleone
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They always do
They usually do yes, it would've been less under him. Hopefully one day we'll get to see someone with his values at the helm, unlikely to be in my lifetime though and I'm only 38.
hilts
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What values are these? Don’t fail for idealogy its a busted flush.They usually do yes, it would've been less under him. Hopefully one day we'll get to see someone with his values at the helm, unlikely to be in my lifetime though and I'm only 38.
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What values are these? Don’t fail for idealogy its a busted flush.
Well, I see him as someone who gives a shit about people other than himself. That would be a good start. There are very few MP's I can say that about right now
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David Lammy was pretty good on Sky just now. Battend all the bullshit away and was forthright with his answers.
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Good interview here. I realise people have already made their minds up about him but give it a go.
Oh excellent!
I didn't realise somebody else had picked this up as I, eventually, put it in my 'Reality Bytes' thread but had considered here.
Good job.
Bigga
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Why is he coming back?
Is there not a problem with being down a rabbit hole unable to see anything else?
Even if you may disagree as a 'principle', one should always come up for air to see what the view is.
As I've said for myself, I do just that and find myself agreeing, even just a tad, with another view.
It rounds out my own world view and it may do that for you.
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Lammy is such a gobshite
hilts
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Thank you Yoda :-)Is there not a problem with being down a rabbit hole unable to see anything else?
Even if you may disagree as a 'principle', one should always come up for air to see what the view is.
As I've said for myself, I do just that and find myself agreeing, even just a tad, with another view.
It rounds out my own world view and it may do that for you.
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He wouldn't commit to say of the party created by workers of the Labour markets would support them going out on strike.David Lammy was pretty good on Sky just now. Battend all the bullshit away and was forthright with his answers.
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I dunno I wouldn't describe him as non-committal , always good for a soundbite is Dave.He wouldn't commit to say of the party created by workers of the Labour markets would support them going out on strike.
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I dunno I wouldn't describe him as non-committal , always good for a soundbite is Dave.
No I wouldn't either. It is an order from the above to not get involved with industrial disputes so as to not fall into the Tory trap and legitimise the ghost of Scargill references.
Essentially banking on the left voting for Labour whilst trying to appeal to middle England Floaters by being "the pragmatic alternative".
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You’re an intelligent bloke, no need for me to tell you why. Not that I agree with it, but I understand why.He wouldn't commit to say of the party created by workers of the Labour markets would support them going out on strike.
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Is PP trying to highlight how Labour has changed or trying to get a blow in for the right. I’m not sure?No I wouldn't either. It is an order from the above to not get involved with industrial disputes so as to not fall into the Tory trap and legitimise the ghost of Scargill references.
Essentially banking on the left voting for Labour whilst trying to appeal to middle England Floaters by being "the pragmatic alternative".
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Is PP trying to highlight how Labour has changed or trying to get a blow in for the right. I’m not sure?
Former, he is a "corbynista".
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Not supporting these like Rail unions and British Airways shows that the Labour party is Tory Lite party. Get some balls and get off the fence.
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Both, then.Former, he is a "corbynista".
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There really is no need to explain the strategy. If the objective is not to give that line of attack any oxygen I'm not sure how Lammy is helping the cause, especially regarding the line I highlighted.No I wouldn't either. It is an order from the above to not get involved with industrial disputes so as to not fall into the Tory trap and legitimise the ghost of Scargill references.
Essentially banking on the left voting for Labour whilst trying to appeal to middle England Floaters by being "the pragmatic alternative".
Given that Labour sources have been briefing that he was 'freelancing' and Kinnock for one refused to endorse his comments it seems I'm not alone in thinking that.
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Is PP trying to highlight how Labour has changed or trying to get a blow in for the right. I’m not sure?
Former, he is a "corbynista".
I mean seriously what the fuck ?Both, then.