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If you suspect that the Greens will turn over a 30,000 majority when Labour are 20pts ahead in the polls, then I'd get yourself to the bookies - you'll get good odds on that ;)
I am sorry ? You think that the Greens who's only MP is stepping down at the next GE because she thinks she can be more effective outside the HoC can overturn a 28k+ majority in Debbonaire's seat?
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I'd say the same thing. If you think it's going to happen then I'd get yourself down to the bookies.

I would still be very surprised though. These MRP polls are very clever, and when aggregated across the whole country they are very good at predicting overall seat numbers for the larger parties. For individual seats, particularly so far out from the actual election date, they are still wildly inaccurate much of the time.
 


Bristol Central is a future seat created for the next election.

This potential change is because of the boundaries changing, there are lots of affluent and even very affluent people living in wards within those new boundaries. Places like Clifton, Redland and Cotham. People with liberal and even very liberal views but also people that don't like higher taxation and sharing "their money" with those less well off.

The Greens have essentially taken over the role of the lib Dems as a viable protest vote.

However the labour voters lost from the old boundaries (and transferred to Bristol North West) will likely secure Darren Jones and his successors a higher majority.
 
Bristol Central is a future seat created for the next election.

This potential change is because of the boundaries changing, there are lots of affluent and even very affluent people living in wards within those new boundaries. Places like Clifton, Redland and Cotham. People with liberal and even very liberal views but also people that don't like higher taxation and sharing "their money" with those less well off.

The Greens have essentially taken over the role of the lib Dems as a viable protest vote.

However the labour voters lost from the old boundaries (and transferred to Bristol North West) will likely secure Darren Jones and his successors a higher majority.
So their confidence is not necessarily misplaced then ?
I'd say the same thing. If you think it's going to happen then I'd get yourself down to the bookies.
It's going in my GE request a bet alongside Labour winning 490 seats :)
 
So their confidence is not necessarily misplaced then ?

No. But context is important.


Bristol Central mainly matches the old Bristol West seat, but no longer includes any voters who live east of Temple Way and Temple Meads, in communities like Easton, Barton Hill and Lawrence Hill.

If you remove somewhere like Easton it's no wonder Labour are down on expected votes.

Let's remember that by chasing a second seat at the last election these shysters caused a good labour constituency MP to lose his seat to the Tories in Stroud.

They may win the seat, but apart from isolated pockets in affluent areas or university town constituencies, they won't be challenging for others.
 
It's going in my GE request a bet alongside Labour winning 490 seats :)
We can but hope.

I quite like Thangam Debbonaire, but would prefer the Greens to win a few seats. So long as it doesn't make them giddy elsewhere and they let more Tories in.
 
If only we had PR then we could all vote for what we want instead of voting against what we most dislike to stop them 'getting in'.

On that basis, I would never vote Labour again. At least not until they completely transformed themselves.
 
If only we had PR then we could all vote for what we want instead of voting against what we most dislike to stop them 'getting in'.

On that basis, I would never vote Labour again. At least not until they completely transformed themselves.

This is why since 2015 I’ve been hoping for a situation where Labour need the Lib Dems to form a government. I think it’s now quite unlikely, but I reckon it’s our only realistic path to PR.
 
This is why since 2015 I’ve been hoping for a situation where Labour need the Lib Dems to form a government. I think it’s now quite unlikely, but I reckon it’s our only realistic path to PR.
Agree.

It's labour policy to support PR but Starmer has been ignoring it. A coalition with the Libs to have a referendum on it would be the deal breaker.
 
After speaking to corporate interests Sir Keir has decided to water down the pledge on increasing employment rights.

That's right. The leader of the party that was created to represent labour has confirmed it's sucking corporate dick over the people it's supposed to represent.

Yeah but he has to suck corporate dick so middle England vote for him even during the worst govt the UK has ever seen. And they will need to do this for the foreseeable. So the best way to get rid of Tories Is to be like them.

But no no no they are just lying and once in will become more Labour like which will win over middle England the desperate 'centrists' scream.

After all middle England may dislike those awful socialists unless........


Those awful socialists lie to them at which point they will magically warm to them. You certainly fooled us you rascals they will cry as they put their X next to Labour. You rum buggers.

And back in the real world we all know Starmer has a raging hard on just at the thought of being PM and the Westminster Labour Party will do anything to get power as losing again and again to lying greedy useless parasites is rather embarrassing.
 
What a sack of cack she is.
Not quite understanding this post. She is a solicitor who is doing her job as an immigration specialist. I know that certain media are targeting these people for helping ‘illegal’ immigrants with supposed ‘loopholes’ when the reality is they are not ‘illegal’, they are trying to claim refugee status, and there‘s no such thing as a ‘loophole’ as the law would be rectified to close it.

Probably all about perspective and how people want to see it rather than the truth of the matter.

Seeing as the government have stated that they are cracking down on dodgy solicitors, I take it she’s been arrested after this in-depth investigation?
 
If you research the actual woman she mentions helping people who have overstayed their visas or/and are here illegally.

And you don't understand my post?
What, a solicitor saying that those who formally had permission to stay, to actually go down the legal route to legitimately remain in the country, is wrong?

Her wording was shite, I agree, but what is she doing that she shouldn’t be? Making money from re-registering people is not illegal, she’s actually doing us all a favour as I don’t see the government doing anything to register or remove those affected.

More distraction to keep people divided and angry, I’ll leave you to it.
 

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