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[Mr Kobayashi]

If you research the actual woman she mentions helping people who have overstayed their visas or/and are here illegally.

And you don't understand my post?

There isn't any legal advice that she is offering that's illegal in the clip.

It's all standard legal practice. People may have overstayed their visas because they might have been persecuted in their home country (for being a political dissident, or sexual or ethnic minority) or due to serious chronic health conditions.

In certain circumstances these are valid reasons to make a successful claim under human rights legislation.

If she has been coaching clients to embellish and lie, it's an offence that would get her struck off from her profession. There's no suggestion of that by GB News though, they know not to do it because they don't have evidence and would quickly find themselves losing a libel case.

Better to stir the pot in such a way that people fill in the blanks.

 

[mexico1970]

What, a solicitor saying that those who formally had permission to stay, to actually go down the legal route to legitimately remain in the country, is wrong?

Her wording was shite, I agree, but what is she doing that she shouldn’t be? Making money from re-registering people is not illegal, she’s actually doing us all a favour as I don’t see the government doing anything to register or remove those affected.

More distraction to keep people divided and angry, I’ll leave you to it.

No you stated that she was aiming at those wanting asylum, if you overstay you should be removed imo, excuses can't be made that you couldn't claim asylum that would be absurd.

She's a Vulture.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

No you stated that she was aiming at those wanting asylum, if you overstay you should be removed imo, excuses can't be made that you couldn't claim asylum that would be absurd.

She's a Vulture.

Do you know this for a fact?

Is it possible that someone who came to the UK as a student may have embraced their homosexuality or trans identity and it is now unsafe for them to go home because of the persecution they'd encounter on their return?

They've run out of funds for further studies and they aren't eligible to work full time or meet the requirements of a work permit.

That's just one example, to highlight that things can change over time.

It's not always as black and white as people wanting to cheat the system.

Even the Government's harsh new laws admit that there are some valid reasons for overstaying, because they know complete expulsion for everyone isn't "reasonable" and some people would have valid claims

UK policies to deter people from claiming asylum - Migration Observatory

This briefing note brings together statistics and research evidence to inform discussion about policy measures designed explicitly to deter people from seeking asylum in the UK.

migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk

 

[blueinsa]

Nothing what she is offering is illegal.

It's all standard legal practice.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

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It is, government agencies know that when someone has exhausted their eligibility for appeals under the standard immigration route they are entitled to seek advice and make one under human rights law.

And they are given advice not to prejudice or inadvertently disrupt such legal actions by how they handle people they have a legal responsibility for accomodating, e.g. someone who arrived as an unaccompanied asylum seeking child but is now an adult.

 

[blueinsa]

It is, government agencies know that when someone has exhausted their eligibility for appeals under the standard immigration route they are entitled to seek advice and make one under human rights law.

And they are given advice not to prejudice or inadvertently disrupt such legal actions by how they handle people they have a legal responsibility for accomodating, e.g. someone who arrived as an unaccompanied asylum seeking child but is now an adult.

This isn’t a discussion about the vast majority of law professionals who act with integrity and help clients to the best of their abilities.

It’s about the bad eggs as well you know.

Suggesting they are doing nothing wrong is silly and goes against the SRA who have recently closed down 3 firms due to their malpractice surrounding immigration.

 

[Vic]

This isn’t a discussion about the vast majority of law professionals who act with integrity and help clients to the best of their abilities.

It’s about the bad eggs as well you know.

Suggesting they are doing nothing wrong is silly and goes against the SRA who have recently closed down 3 firms due to their malpractice surrounding immigration.

But not the solicitor doorstepped by GB News.

The Tories are plainly trying to link "lefty lawyers" with illegality and with the Labour Party.

Anyway, people who do things wrong are entitled to legal representation. Even Liar Johnson, and we paid for his lawyers to lie on his behalf.

 

[west didsblue]

This isn’t a discussion about the vast majority of law professionals who act with integrity and help clients to the best of their abilities.

It’s about the bad eggs as well you know.

Suggesting they are doing nothing wrong is silly and goes against the SRA who have recently closed down 3 firms due to their malpractice surrounding immigration.

How do you know she’s a bad egg?
Because some GB News bellend told you?

Just because she refuses an interview after being accosted in a car park by someone with a clear agenda that she had previously turned down a request proves nothing.

She might be a bad egg and she might not be, but basing your judgment on the say of a bellend with an obvious agenda suggests a certain prejudice in the first place.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

This isn’t a discussion about the vast majority of law professionals who act with integrity and help clients to the best of their abilities.

It’s about the bad eggs as well you know.

Suggesting they are doing nothing wrong is silly and goes against the SRA who have recently closed down 3 firms due to their malpractice surrounding immigration.

The damning information on those firms was gained by serious investigative journalism.

If GB News thinks she's up to no good they can use the same methods not doorstep and personally target specific individuals because they are also Labour councillors.

Find the wrongdoing and then her political party is a relevant fact.

As far as I know, they don't use investigative methods, apart from rogue employees catfishing people or Nigel Farage being driven around in a luxury car so he can loiter in hotels or gawp at people on dinghies.

 

[BrianW]

Being a lawyer is all about the fine points of the law.

Any fool knows what murder is. A lawyer is someone who can persuade a court that, for some obscure reason, it was not murder, but manslaughter, insanity, self-defence, GBH or whatever. There will always be grey areas. But how do you prove a genuine illegal act on the lawyer's part? 1. The lawyer/client relationship is privileged. 2. The lawyer can always swear blind that the client misunderstood their advice. Where is the witness to disprove it? 3. A lot of these issues are fine distinctions in law anyway, that 99% of the population is not qualified to judge. Only actual judges are, and even judges don't always agree, which is why we have appeal courts and the supreme court.

 

[blueinsa]

Again, the SRA managed to find enough wrong doing with 3 separate immigration firms so maybe it isn’t such a grey area after all eh?

The mental gymnastics some manage to display rather than just accepting “some” will break the law to make a few quid is brilliant to watch.

SRA shuts down firms and solicitors named in Mail sting

Regulator acts within days of call for urgent action from justice secretary.

www.lawgazette.co.uk

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Again, the SRA managed to find enough wrong doing with 3 separate immigration firms so maybe it isn’t such a grey area after all eh?

The mental gymnastics some manage to display rather than just accepting “some” will break the law to make a few quid is brilliant to watch.

SRA shuts down firms and solicitors named in Mail sting

Regulator acts within days of call for urgent action from justice secretary.

www.lawgazette.co.uk

"The Mail’s story appeared to show lawyers advising clients to lie or create a story to boost their asylum claims."

There's no evidence that the solicitor door-stopped by GB News was up to that is there?

 

[blueinsa]

"The Mail’s story appeared to show lawyers advising clients to lie or create a story to boost their asylum claims.

There's no evidence that the solicitor door-stopped by GB News was up to that is there?"

She has at a minimum been told to take her advert down and change the language used, that I do know.

Any further possible wrongdoing on her part will come out if she has broken any laws.

I fully accept as a lawyer she should do all she can to represent her clients, no issue whatsoever with that.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

She has at a minimum been told to take her advert down and change the language used, that I do know.

Any further possible wrongdoing on her part will come out if she has broken any laws.

I fully accept as a lawyer she should do all she can to represent her clients, no issue whatsoever with that.

It's not wrongdoing. She hasn't broken any laws. Solicitors are allowed to put out that kind of advertisement.

Because politicians on the far right like Farage and Lee Anderson have twisted her words. She's made a video pleading for people to become legal.

There's nothing to suggest she's enticing people to lie and we know there's been a hit job dossier targeting lefty-lawyers shared by CCHQ.

 

[meltonblue]

She has at a minimum been told to take her advert down and change the language used, that I do know.

Any further possible wrongdoing on her part will come out if she has broken any laws.

I fully accept as a lawyer she should do all she can to represent her clients, no issue whatsoever with that.

That was because of the language she used in the video not being politically well advised at all, she hasn’t been told to stop any of her practices.

It’s people then subsequently opportunistically using the news of people that were abusing the system to then tarnish all immigration lawyers with the same brush and make the narrative that they’re all at it.

Coupled with that, they’ve got the easy win of the political narrative too. Doesn’t matter if they say she’s breaking the rules or not, just getting it out there a Labour councillor is offering legal representation to immigrants is (increasingly worryingly) enough of a story for them anyway

 

[Vic]

,, She has at a minimum been told to take her advert down and change the language used, that I do know.

Any further possible wrongdoing on her part will come out if she has broken any laws.

I fully accept as a lawyer she should do all she can to represent her clients, no issue whatsoever with that.

But you don't know what the advert said?

"Are you illegal?" Don't worry, I can help you become legal.

Shocking.

GB News got the story from Conservative Home.

See also: https://www.theguardian.com/politic...dossier-forced-to-review-security-after-email

Anyway, I think you've missed the point. The solicitors struck off didn't have any links to Labour, and that's the game here.

Plus, you're giving implicit support to a noxious poster who (apparently with only the GB News item as a source) called Irim Ali a sack of cack and a vulture.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

No you stated that she was aiming at those wanting asylum, if you overstay you should be removed imo, excuses can't be made that you couldn't claim asylum that would be absurd.

She's a Vulture.

Sorry, missed this. All solicitors could be classed as so until you need them.

As for your claim that they should be removed immediately, I’d say we’re on very different books so will leave it there, less to say that the government have done fuck all to do what you want.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Austerity Reeves saying Labour wont introduce further taxes on the rich.

Whats the fucking point of them, apart from being "slightly better" than the shitshow running the country?

 

[mexico1970]

Austerity Reeves saying Labour wont introduce further taxes on the rich.

Whats the fucking point of them, apart from being "slightly better" than the shitshow running the country?

11 years of Thatcher
10 years of Bliar
Another 13 years of the tories

We in modern times have had career politicians just changing the baton in a never-ending everyone's a winner baton race disguised as a democracy.

Name	Time in office	Political party
James Callaghan	1976 – 1979	Labour
Harold Wilson	1974 – 1976	Labour
Edward Heath	1970 – 1974	Conservative
Harold Wilson	1964 – 1970	Labour

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Austerity Reeves saying Labour wont introduce further taxes on the rich.

Whats the fucking point of them, apart from being "slightly better" than the shitshow running the country?

What a massive relief for the tiny percentage of the population who have become fantastically rich over the past decade. Nice one sir Keir.