The Labour Party

[TinFoilHat]

Anything will be better than what we’ve had over the last 13 years.
The promises made will be directly affected by the mess left behind by the current administration, any progress made will be undone by the next Tory government that’s what happens if people are fickle and vote for personal wealth rather than the good of all.
Starmer said he will tax the vast profits of the Energy companies and the tax perks private education receives I’m optimistic about the future.

I want to be optimistic.

I live in a fairly safe Labour seat and will hold my nose and vote for them.

My concern is we'll have 5 years of caretaker Keir not wanting to rock the boat with the media or business booted out after one term by the further right Tory party who spend 5 years attacking him on being soft on migration and allowing me to use women toilets.

Labour might get a wafer thin majority and that would be enough just to maintain this shit course rather than do anything radical like making the rich pay their fair share.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I want to be optimistic.

I live in a fairly safe Labour seat and will hold my nose and vote for them.

My concern is we'll have 5 years of caretaker Keir not wanting to rock the boat with the media or business booted out after one term by the further right Tory party who spend 5 years attacking him on being soft on migration and allowing me to use women toilets.

Labour might get a wafer thin majority and that would be enough just to maintain this shit course rather than do anything radical like making the rich pay their fair share.

If they have a large majority it's difficult to see how they could be a one term government unless there's huge instability.

People aren't that daft to vote the Tories back in after five years and it hasn't happened for a long time.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Hopefully they'll get in and if there's a tangible improvement I'll put my hands up.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Just watched Rachel Reeves speech. Wow. Articulate, serious and confidence inspiring. An actual grown up.

She might even upstage Starmer with that performance.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Just watched Rachel Reeves speech. Wow. Articulate, serious and confidence inspiring. An actual grown up.

She might even upstage Starmer with that performance.

Did she come across as all for banks and businesses, not caring about the little person?

 

[blueinsa]

Did she come across as all for banks and businesses, not caring about the little person?

She is very much a part of that establishment so little wonder they are in support of her.

There will be no surprises for the banks and business from any of her budgets or Labour policy and they know it.

A good thing as more turmoil is the last thing needed but as for creating the promised changes for the average man and woman in the street?

I wouldn’t hold your breath.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

She is very much a part of that establishment so little wonder they are in support of her.

There will be no surprises for the banks and business from any of her budgets or Labour policy and they know it.

A good thing as more turmoil is the last thing needed but as for creating the promised changes for the average man and woman in the street?

I wouldn’t hold your breath.

Is that what you got from her speech or from your own informed perspective?

 

[blueinsa]

Is that what you got from her speech or from your own informed perspective?

Seen several interviews and pieces today from Business representatives through to the Governor of the B of E all happy to endorse her and this Labour.

She is ex B of E, an economist they trust won’t rock the boat.

Its crazy times when they react to a Labour politician they way they normally only ever react to a Tory.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Seen several interviews and pieces today from Business representatives through to the Governor of the B of E all happy to endorse her and this Labour.

She is ex B of E, an economist they trust won’t rock the boat.

Its crazy times when they react to a Labour politician they way they normally only ever react to a Tory.

Maybe it’s because Labour have a plan that will steady the ship, not lurching from side to the other like the Tories have been doing.

Let‘s face it, after the debacle of 13 years of underfunding in all areas of society, for the short term we’re probably going to have to use the private sector to bring about any type of investment as we just don’t have the money to do anything sizeable. That’s why Labour will have to keep them sweet whilst also ensuring that there is still a future for public ownership.

Tightropes, and all that.

 

[blueinsa]

Maybe it’s because Labour have a plan that will steady the ship, not lurching from side to the other like the Tories have been doing.

Let‘s face it, after the debacle of 13 years of underfunding in all areas of society, for the short term we’re probably going to have to use the private sector to bring about any type of investment as we just don’t have the money to do anything sizeable. That’s why Labour will have to keep them sweet whilst also ensuring that there is still a future for public ownership.

Tightropes, and all that.

Dress it how we want, they trust her, she is one of them.

 

[blueinsa]

@The Future’s Blue! My apologies, it was the ex governor of the B of E who endorsed her but the DG of the CBI also went into bat for her.

Key support.

 

[TinFoilHat]

@The Future’s Blue! My apologies, it was the ex governor of the B of E who endorsed her but the DG of the CBI also went into bat for her.

Key support.

I was about to point this out myself.

When these "establishment figures" come out to bat for labour it shows how far right they've moved.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

The Red Star style of Labour has long gone partly due to the media dripping of Socialism is bad and the general population even with the state of the country becoming more 'wealthy' and less union focused.

It strikes me that Sir could do a lot worse than putting a load of northern birds in charge and just smile at the cameras...in fact what he's been doing for a few years now & hope they can sort at least some of the fucking mess out.

 

[TinFoilHat]

 

[blueinsa]

I was about to point this out myself.

When these "establishment figures" come out to bat for labour it shows how far right they've moved.

Something I get as they had to make that move to become electable.

The UK will never elect a left wing government like one Corbyn would have delivered.

Banks and business run the country and after Truss, you either conform or you will have no chance.

 

[TinFoilHat]

The speeches by Reeves and Rayner sounded like leaders. Putting aside my own political beliefs both sounded like they believed what they were saying and put their personality into them.

Not a fan of Streeting but I'll give him his due he can also hold a room when he gets on his soapbox.

Lammy sounded like he was reading his cue cards on LBC.

Starmer will have to hit a zinger to top them.

Tory K claims he has a fantastic sense of humour. He'll need to bring that out to show the public he'd worth voting for as a leader, not just because the Tories are shit.

Labour can still spursy the upcoming election. If they do Reeves, Streeting or Rayner will be his replacement.

I can see the PLP backing Reeves and the party membership backing Rayner.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

I want to be optimistic.

I live in a fairly safe Labour seat and will hold my nose and vote for them.

My concern is we'll have 5 years of caretaker Keir not wanting to rock the boat with the media or business booted out after one term by the further right Tory party who spend 5 years attacking him on being soft on migration and allowing me to use women toilets.

Labour might get a wafer thin majority and that would be enough just to maintain this shit course rather than do anything radical like making the rich pay their fair share.

I live in a safe Labour seat we have seen a large area of brown field land built on with a mix of houses and affordable homes no flats just lovely homes. That makes me optimistic about the future of the next generation.
A lot of people think like you do that Starmer “won’t want to rock the boat”
I think he is a strong leader Labour have learned over the 13 years to keep their cards close and not reveal to much to soon look at the two strong women by his side today unlike the women beside Sunak.
Whatever happens it can’t be worse than the lies and parties in Number 10

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Dress it how we want, they trust her, she is one of them.

I’m happy with that as I’m not too ideological, believing competence and fairness in the position is more valuable than making a stance on behalf of the lobbyests.

If she can bring them onside, and it’s the best for the country, then I’m content.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

The speeches by Reeves and Rayner sounded like leaders. Putting aside my own political beliefs both sounded like they believed what they were saying and put their personality into them.

Not a fan of Streeting but I'll give him his due he can also hold a room when he gets on his soapbox.

Lammy sounded like he was reading his cue cards on LBC.

Starmer will have to hit a zinger to top them.

Tory K claims he has a fantastic sense of humour. He'll need to bring that out to show the public he'd worth voting for as a leader, not just because the Tories are shit.

Labour can still spursy the upcoming election. If they do Reeves, Streeting or Rayner will be his replacement.

I can see the PLP backing Reeves and the party membership backing Rayner.

Team Labour ;-)

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Popped out to the shops before and threw LBC on the radio. Iain Dale was on saying that he was impressed with Reeve but was a little disappointed that she didn’t set out an economic strategy.

I know he’s a disgruntled Tory but surely he understands that if Labour set out how they are going to do things, there will be a large chance that the Tories will just rip it off and repackage it as their own. It’s not like the Tories haven’t set precedent over issues that they could not resolve.