The Labour Party

BobKowalski said:
There core beliefs are not as one. This is just dumb and comes across as ‘I’m not getting what I want, so I’m taking my ball home and sod everyone else.’

We are in the shit, in part because the Labour Party focussed inward and stopped listening to the public. Labour has to listen. The Tories stopped listening and look where it’s getting them.

It isn’t all about you and your feelings. To be fair it isn’t about mine either :)
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Eh? Are you okay hun?

Right wing Tories are moving across to the Labour Party and be welcomed with a fanfare.

This isn’t feelings, it’s fact.
 
Difficult to see how Reeves could have got it more wrong regarding the GDP figures released this morning.

Disputing whether the economy was improving and turning a corner was a silly move given the prospects for a good Q1 GDP figure, and doing this ahead of the Bank of England meeting - when key Bank officials had been making more optimistic noises - was especially poor timing.

She’s undoubtedly been poorly advised, but you have to question her instincts as well.
 
Brewster's millions said:
Difficult to see how Reeves could have got it more wrong regarding the GDP figures released this morning.

Disputing whether the economy was improving and turning a corner was a silly move given the prospects for a good Q1 GDP figure, and doing this ahead of the Bank of England meeting - when key Bank officials had been making more optimistic noises - was especially poor timing.

She’s undoubtedly been poorly advised, but you have to question her instincts as well.
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Starmer will be pleased. An economy with a flickering of growth - albeit BoE expects any growth to be sluggish - will make his and Labour’s job a tiny bit easier when they take office.
 
BobKowalski said:
Starmer will be pleased. An economy with a flickering of growth - albeit BoE expects any growth to be sluggish - will make his and Labour’s job a tiny bit easier when they take office.
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Ah I was too quick to judge in the government thread

You’re quite right, one swallow doesn’t make a summer and all that, but maybe he can do some things after all. Be interesting to see what they start to verbalise as priorities if they do inherit an improving economic situation.
 
metalblue said:
Ah I was too quick to judge in the government thread

You’re quite right, one swallow doesn’t make a summer and all that, but maybe he can do some things after all. Be interesting to see what they start to verbalise as priorities if they do inherit an improving economic situation.
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It may give Starmer some wriggle room, but the projection was 0.4% growth so no one is getting out the bunting over an extra 0.2% - especially as quarterly figures often end up being revised. However, an improving economy is better than a retracting economy.

The easy wins lie with deals with the EU, greater harmonisation over standards, controls and SPS agreements etc. Anything that makes movement of goods/food easier and cheaper - or at least doesn’t add further costs is low hanging fruit (pun intended).
 
Cloud cuckoo land as per usual from Stramer on the boats just as I thought, they have no plan, the tories have a flawed plan which will last until they lose.
If the French don't cooperate - which they don't then there is no plan
There needs to be a massive deterrent
Also, just to be clear, these are not asylum seekers, they ILLEGAL ECONOMIC MIGRANTS and should be returned to wherever they come from immediately.
I won't be fucking bothering voting yet again. Absolute jokers the lot of them.
 
Sale Moor Blue said:
Cloud cuckoo land as per usual from Stramer on the boats just as I thought, they have no plan, the tories have a flawed plan which will last until they lose.
If the French don't cooperate - which they don't then there is no plan
There needs to be a massive deterrent
Also, just to be clear, these are not asylum seekers, they ILLEGAL ECONOMIC MIGRANTS and should be returned to wherever they come from immediately.
I won't be fucking bothering voting yet again. Absolute jokers the lot of them.
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You don't want to vote for reform?
 
BobKowalski said:
It may give Starmer some wriggle room, but the projection was 0.4% growth so no one is getting out the bunting over an extra 0.2% - especially as quarterly figures often end up being revised. However, an improving economy is better than a retracting economy.

The easy wins lie with deals with the EU, greater harmonisation over standards, controls and SPS agreements etc. Anything that makes movement of goods/food easier and cheaper - or at least doesn’t add further costs is low hanging fruit (pun intended).
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I wouldn’t expect Reeves to be spending it just yet ;) she would want more evidence of real growth for sure and probably wouldn’t want to come out and say now the economy is doing well under the Tories we can…. ahead of a GE, she’ll naturally want to keep focus on the negatives!!!

Have Labour actually come out with any firm plans for EU relations? Other than their default saying of being better. Genuine question. On that topic I was a bit surprised/ disappointed that we dismissed the EU proposal for movement of a younger age cohort, it didn’t appear there was any negotiation for specific exclusions or a “quid pro quo” but rather a blanket no from us. Perhaps that can be revisited.
 
Sale Moor Blue said:
Cloud cuckoo land as per usual from Stramer on the boats just as I thought, they have no plan, the tories have a flawed plan which will last until they lose.
If the French don't cooperate - which they don't then there is no plan
There needs to be a massive deterrent
Also, just to be clear, these are not asylum seekers, they ILLEGAL ECONOMIC MIGRANTS and should be returned to wherever they come from immediately.
I won't be fucking bothering voting yet again. Absolute jokers the lot of them.
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If you think the answer is to put a network of machine gun nests and barbed wire around the south coast beaches and kill on sight then just say that.
 
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