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Alan Harper's Tash said:
It just looked like a recording of her giving a speech somewhere to nobody and about Labour, not themselves.

I reckon Alan Partridge or Charlie Brooker might be Sunak’s campaign manager.
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Yeah it was so amateur and half hearted, we have to put summat out, bloody hell okay you over there just read out some shit for us yeah we're too busy grabbing and packing whatever is left round here.

Pass that stapler please.
 
hilts said:
I like Ed Davey in fairness, he is by far the most likeable of a rather dubious bunch.

But he does appear to be on some sort of prince's trust outing most days.
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Yeah, it’s like he’s put their campaign money into respite care for his child and he’s doing the things he can’t do on a regular basis.

He’s certainly the guy most can relate to.
 
There are some ideas that seem simple solutions to problems...

Labour plans to use NHS budget to buy beds in care homes

A Labour government would use NHS money to buy thousands of beds in care homes, Wes Streeting has said, under plans to reduce overcrowding in England’s hospitals and long waits in A&E. The shadow health secretary said the move would address the situation of beds being occupied by patients who are fit to leave but remain stuck because a lack of care outside the hospital. There are 13,000 beds in England – enough to fill 26 hospitals – being occupied by such patients. Labour intends to funnel some of the NHS’s £165bn budget into the plan as one of a series of immediate changes intended to relieve the crisis in the health service. Streeting said that a Labour government would expect hospitals across England to follow the example of Leeds teaching hospitals NHS trust, which spends £9m a year buying up care home beds in order to cut delayed discharges and free up beds. That initiative has freed up 165 beds, helped reduce the number of patients who are admitted avoidably and saved the trust between £17m and £23m, it has estimated.
 
Sale Moor Blue said:
Thought Stramer was good last week on the Sky debate.
However he lacks personality.
Both parties are clueless on immigration.
Another 800 arrived Tuesday.
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Some people just don’t get it, the only thing you can do is come out of the EHCR and physically stop the boats in the water which could lead to drowning and against Maritime Law.

There is absolutely nothing you can do if where the asylum seekers come from do nothing to stop them.

So, we’re paying the French to do fuck all and Rwanda to hold nobody.

When will people understand.
 
TinFoilHat said:
Of course.

Until the press honeymoon with Keith is over and it will be all over the press.
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I have that to look forward to at least.


Mr Kobayashi said:
Protest at his home?
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Can't do that, it makes his wife uncomfortable. Something that was never mentioned with the last Labour leader. She was foreign though tbf.
 
Don Karleone said:
Nothing wrong with that. Wrong target imo but it's a peaceful protest.
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It is peaceful yes. But would have been enough for harassment.

I don't see how either of the protests are productive and politicians have a right to privacy at their home. I don't like the practice of door stepping either. I understand the point of it but it was obviously abused in relation to Corbyn.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Some people just don’t get it, the only thing you can do is come out of the EHCR and physically stop the boats in the water which could lead to drowning and against Maritime Law.

There is absolutely nothing you can do if where the asylum seekers come from do nothing to stop them.

So, we’re paying the French to do fuck all and Rwanda to hold nobody.

When will people understand.
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Yep good points but the question really is why are they coming here anyway?
 
Sale Moor Blue said:
Yep good points but the question really is why are they coming here anyway?
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Basically because certain parts of the world are fucked, from the Middle East to Africa to name but a few. Wars, famine, broken economics, many places in the world are broken and the displaced need to find alternative places to live.

Very simplistic answer in a very complicated sphere and many stronger economies are going through the same, most having much higher levels than ours, and it’s something that needs to be addressed globally.

Until that happens, there is no way of stopping it, it’s happened since life began.
 
Vic said:
There are some ideas that seem simple solutions to problems...

Labour plans to use NHS budget to buy beds in care homes

A Labour government would use NHS money to buy thousands of beds in care homes, Wes Streeting has said, under plans to reduce overcrowding in England’s hospitals and long waits in A&E. The shadow health secretary said the move would address the situation of beds being occupied by patients who are fit to leave but remain stuck because a lack of care outside the hospital. There are 13,000 beds in England – enough to fill 26 hospitals – being occupied by such patients. Labour intends to funnel some of the NHS’s £165bn budget into the plan as one of a series of immediate changes intended to relieve the crisis in the health service. Streeting said that a Labour government would expect hospitals across England to follow the example of Leeds teaching hospitals NHS trust, which spends £9m a year buying up care home beds in order to cut delayed discharges and free up beds. That initiative has freed up 165 beds, helped reduce the number of patients who are admitted avoidably and saved the trust between £17m and £23m, it has estimated.
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Does that mean the nhs are using private business beds then, do they keep those beds forever, if you are going down that route then why not pay private companies to perform the backlog of operations, get the waiting lists down to a manageable level, get people back to work off the sick, once this is done then hioefully the NHS would be back to a manageable level. Maybe it would cost a bit in the short term but Shirley getting people off the sick etc would be better for the country.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Basically because certain parts of the world are fucked, from the Middle East to Africa to name but a few. Wars, famine, broken economics, many places in the world are broken and the displaced need to find alternative places to live.

Very simplistic answer in a very complicated sphere and many stronger economies are going through the same, most having much higher levels than ours, and it’s something that needs to be addressed globally.

Until that happens, there is no way of stopping it, it’s happened since life began.
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It's a massive failure from the tories and the Rwanda scheme has cost tax payers an absolute fortune and hasn't worked.
Problem is the labour solution probably won't work either. I think its a national disgrace to be honest. I won't be voting for anyone.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Basically because certain parts of the world are fucked, from the Middle East to Africa to name but a few. Wars, famine, broken economics, many places in the world are broken and the displaced need to find alternative places to live.

Very simplistic answer in a very complicated sphere and many stronger economies are going through the same, most having much higher levels than ours, and it’s something that needs to be addressed globally.

Until that happens, there is no way of stopping it, it’s happened since life began.
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Correct.

Which is why we all left Africa in the first place.

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Successive dispersals (labeled in years before present)
 
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Vic said:
There are some ideas that seem simple solutions to problems...

Labour plans to use NHS budget to buy beds in care homes

A Labour government would use NHS money to buy thousands of beds in care homes, Wes Streeting has said, under plans to reduce overcrowding in England’s hospitals and long waits in A&E. The shadow health secretary said the move would address the situation of beds being occupied by patients who are fit to leave but remain stuck because a lack of care outside the hospital. There are 13,000 beds in England – enough to fill 26 hospitals – being occupied by such patients. Labour intends to funnel some of the NHS’s £165bn budget into the plan as one of a series of immediate changes intended to relieve the crisis in the health service. Streeting said that a Labour government would expect hospitals across England to follow the example of Leeds teaching hospitals NHS trust, which spends £9m a year buying up care home beds in order to cut delayed discharges and free up beds. That initiative has freed up 165 beds, helped reduce the number of patients who are admitted avoidably and saved the trust between £17m and £23m, it has estimated.
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I presume that's state money going into private company hands.
 
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