The media, us and the rags - the truth

it is astonishing that douchebag sky reporter, Cooper? is still allowed to attend our press conferences with his vile questions. Asking the same things and asking about something that has nothing to do with the game. City's PR dept. needs to do more to help Mancini. Too many times he is left to fend for himself against these giant Dickensian. It's a good thing that Mancini is smart too and doesn't fall for these traps.

Just like that press conference before the west ham game. Some arse kept asking him about Saurez's ban. RM already said it's just his opinion and nothing else. Everyone knew the reporter was trying to refer to Aquero's stamp.

journalists really are the lowest of the pile.
 
to be honest i think are owners are playing a long game with the press.

If we continue to be honest and open and welcoming with them we will continue to get bad press in the short term (3-5 years?) because there is an agenda. However when they come to choose a new team to push forward we will be in the driving seat.
I can hear you all asking, why wold they need a new team to push forward? As has been pointed out the rags have been controlling the agenda by intimidation and bullying. That only works so long and a large event can cause the effect of the control to slip. (for example the nonces at the beeb only got away with it for so long because of bullying and controlling the agenda). Can anyone see a major change coming at the heart of the rags? Hint he is 71 years old, he cant go on forever, thatcher only got to live to 87 after selling her soul to the devil.
 
ecviper said:
it is astonishing that douchebag sky reporter, Cooper? is still allowed to attend our press conferences with his vile questions. Asking the same things and asking about something that has nothing to do with the game. City's PR dept. needs to do more to help Mancini. Too many times he is left to fend for himself against these giant Dickensian. It's a good thing that Mancini is smart too and doesn't fall for these traps.

Just like that press conference before the west ham game. Some arse kept asking him about Saurez's ban. RM already said it's just his opinion and nothing else. Everyone knew the reporter was trying to refer to Aquero's stamp.

journalists really are the lowest of the pile.

Cooper is bad but this twat is worse. Forever asking loaded questions the sly c unt.

fraser-dainton.jpg
 
I heard a story about Graeme Souness when he worked for RTE. Someone asked him at the time why he didn't do pundit work for SKY very often. He said he'd had a fallout with them as he didn't toe the party line. Souness reckoned they have a preset agenda and if you don't go along with it you don't work for them again. He got sacked from RTE for a comment he made about Torres 'raping' Vidic and consequently he finds himself back working for SKY again. I cringe when he now says stuff you can tell he doesn't believe. The powers that be must get some kind of sick pleasure in forcing people against their will. I must add I heard this from a lad who was a taxi driver in Ireland who drove him from the airport to RTE studios so take it as you will.
 
Sky Blue said:
ecviper said:
it is astonishing that douchebag sky reporter, Cooper? is still allowed to attend our press conferences with his vile questions. Asking the same things and asking about something that has nothing to do with the game. City's PR dept. needs to do more to help Mancini. Too many times he is left to fend for himself against these giant Dickensian. It's a good thing that Mancini is smart too and doesn't fall for these traps.

Just like that press conference before the west ham game. Some arse kept asking him about Saurez's ban. RM already said it's just his opinion and nothing else. Everyone knew the reporter was trying to refer to Aquero's stamp.

journalists really are the lowest of the pile.

Cooper is bad but this twat is worse. Forever asking loaded questions the sly c unt.

fraser-dainton.jpg


Who is he? He looks like a snake.
 
ecviper said:
Sky Blue said:
ecviper said:
it is astonishing that douchebag sky reporter, Cooper? is still allowed to attend our press conferences with his vile questions. Asking the same things and asking about something that has nothing to do with the game. City's PR dept. needs to do more to help Mancini. Too many times he is left to fend for himself against these giant Dickensian. It's a good thing that Mancini is smart too and doesn't fall for these traps.

Just like that press conference before the west ham game. Some arse kept asking him about Saurez's ban. RM already said it's just his opinion and nothing else. Everyone knew the reporter was trying to refer to Aquero's stamp.

journalists really are the lowest of the pile.

Cooper is bad but this twat is worse. Forever asking loaded questions the sly c unt.

fraser-dainton.jpg


Who is he? He looks like a snake.


Fraser Dainton....
 
great post,sadly does not surprise me in the least.Mancini can handle himself and im sure most who watch his interviews can see the way his answers are spun.In one way i am glad our club does not go down the same route as utd and attempt to control everything but sometimes i wish they would stamp on the rubbish a bit harder.It is going to be really interesting to see what happens when fergie retires and whether the journo's and pundits will start being more fair and balanced
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
As some of you know, I write for King of the Kippax and in my last article I wrote about the power of the rag’s PR machine and how ruthless they were about putting out their version of the “truth” in order to bolster their image as “the world’s greatest club”. So Baconface’s comments after the derby that they dominated the second half and RVP had a stormer, whereas our goal was clearly offside and his comments after the Arsenal game that their fans never boo a returning player were designed to cement an image with the public that we know isn’t true. I also pointed out that Ian Herbert, nominally the northern football correspondent for The Independent, had written one after another story about them (10 out of his last 12 I think it was at the time I wrote the article).

I was contacted by a freelance journalist I know who told me it was pretty well spot on and asked me who’d given me the information. I told him it was my own opinion based on what I’d seen. He then said there was more to it and contrasted City’s handling of the press with the rags’. Contrary to popular belief, freelancers make up the majority of the reporters as opposed to the salaried journo’s like the Custis’s, Ladyman, Herbert, Taylor etc. So if they ban Ladyman for example, The Mail will send someone else or use a stringer. However it’s serious for the freelancers if they get banned as it’s their livelihood and they don’t get paid if they can’t report so they have to toe the rag party line. Personally I think it’s despicable that they could stop people earning a living (unless it was for something really serious of course) but it shows just how ruthless they are.

He then talked about how City and the media interact. He said he felt we didn’t control our press conferences well and let the media take the piss out of Mancini by taking advantage of his relative lack of English and asking questions they know we’ve told them not to ask. But the most shocking thing was that he said that, after our press conferences, the red-top journalists then sit down together and actually agree between them how they’re going to spin it. So anyone who doesn’t think there is a media agenda needs to think again.

Good post PB, very enlightening. Be interesting to see what some of our posters think. They are usually all over stuff like this like a rash.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
As some of you know, I write for King of the Kippax and in my last article I wrote about the power of the rag’s PR machine and how ruthless they were about putting out their version of the “truth” in order to bolster their image as “the world’s greatest club”. So Baconface’s comments after the derby that they dominated the second half and RVP had a stormer, whereas our goal was clearly offside and his comments after the Arsenal game that their fans never boo a returning player were designed to cement an image with the public that we know isn’t true. I also pointed out that Ian Herbert, nominally the northern football correspondent for The Independent, had written one after another story about them (10 out of his last 12 I think it was at the time I wrote the article).

I was contacted by a freelance journalist I know who told me it was pretty well spot on and asked me who’d given me the information. I told him it was my own opinion based on what I’d seen. He then said there was more to it and contrasted City’s handling of the press with the rags’. Contrary to popular belief, freelancers make up the majority of the reporters as opposed to the salaried journo’s like the Custis’s, Ladyman, Herbert, Taylor etc. So if they ban Ladyman for example, The Mail will send someone else or use a stringer. However it’s serious for the freelancers if they get banned as it’s their livelihood and they don’t get paid if they can’t report so they have to toe the rag party line. Personally I think it’s despicable that they could stop people earning a living (unless it was for something really serious of course) but it shows just how ruthless they are.

He then talked about how City and the media interact. He said he felt we didn’t control our press conferences well and let the media take the piss out of Mancini by taking advantage of his relative lack of English and asking questions they know we’ve told them not to ask. But the most shocking thing was that he said that, after our press conferences, the red-top journalists then sit down together and actually agree between them how they’re going to spin it. So anyone who doesn’t think there is a media agenda needs to think again.

Not surprised here PB. But does this not question how our club's strategy towards the media is being managed. Surely we recognise this. Our owners are professional businessmen. They must have some plan on how to manipulate or guide the press.

Or is it a closed shop. No matter what we do - we are in the shadow of a monopoly - which is supported by all and sundry???
 

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