The Pandora Papers

BobKowalski said:
I see we are at the ‘but, but, BLAIR!’ stage of the argument.

Man stopped being PM nearly 15 years ago, and he is still far more competent then any of the arseholes that followed him.

And I didn’t even vote for the guy.
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No one is 'but blair' anything I do wish you would be honest about what you post. It has been said, by me, that the war criminal is the only politician ex or otherwise to be named in these leaks.
 
Fode N The Hole said:
I don't know, but there are only so many buildings like that around Marylebone and Mayfair. They set up a UK company to purchase it and take it under UK tax regime, so whilst the loophole remains it is a less desirable asset for any potential buyer.
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They needed an office ffs it did not have to be in Marylebone or Mayfair but of course all the others were registered here and liable for stamp duty. Further they set up a company in a tax haven to avoid the duty, they didn't set it up to bring it under the UK tax regime. Iirc they saved 335k !!!
 
Blue Mist said:
They needed an office ffs it did not have to be in Marylebone or Mayfair but of course all the others were registered here and liable for stamp duty. Further they set up a company in a tax haven to avoid the duty, they didn't set it up to bring it under the UK tax regime. Iirc they saved 335k !!!
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They needed an office in a central location, what clients do you think they are serving with their legal consultancy in a building that costs six million pounds that is only the size of a large townhouse?

You haven't even bothered to read what you are talking about, what you are saying isn't accurate or true.

Four months prior to the purchase, the Blairs formed a UK company called Harcourt Ventures, in which they both held a 50% stake and which was registered for VAT. Their new company then acquired the shares in Romanstone, the Alzayani family business that owned 30 Harcourt Street, which was a wholly owned subsidiary of their property group Riverton Capital.
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HARCOURT VENTURES LIMITED overview - Find and update company information - GOV.UK

HARCOURT VENTURES LIMITED - Free company information from Companies House including registered office address, filing history, accounts, annual return, officers, charges, business activity
find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk
 
Blue Mist said:
No one is 'but blair' anything I do wish you would be honest about what you post. It has been said, by me, that the war criminal is the only politician ex or otherwise to be named in these leaks.
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The Tory Party is floating on a sea of Russian cash. Lubov Chernukhin, one of the biggest female donors in recent British political history, has given the Tories £2.1m. Chernukhin, reportedly donates enough to the Tories to qualify for membership of a small group of ultra-rich donors who meet monthly with Johnson and his chancellor, Rishi Sunak. What this exclusive club discusses is not made public. “She’s deep in the party,”

Personally, I‘m more interested in the dirty cash laundered through the City, how much of it is going to the Tory Party and what access and favours this brings. We’ve already had the business of donors paying for Johnson’s flat refurb and what favours they get in return. We also had Cameron and the Greensill dirty lobbying scam about 3 months ago.

Meanwhile, I’ll leave you to rant about a guy who left office 15 years, who seems to have pulled off an accounting dodge on stamp duty.
 
shemnel said:
so what's Pep meant to have done? squirrelled away some cash in andorra?
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Legally earned a salary in Qatar, then legally transferred said money into an Andorran account. Then legally declared said account to Spanish Government during a sort of amnesty period.

The papers reveal that he's avoided paying taxes to the Spanish state. However, it's not illegal. In fact, it's actually quite basic and for a sum of less than £500k (which is peanuts compared to some of the other leaks).
 
Manchester33 said:
Legally earned a salary in Qatar, then legally transferred said money into an Andorran account. Then legally declared said account to Spanish Government during a sort of amnesty period.

The papers reveal that he's avoided paying taxes to the Spanish state. However, it's not illegal. In fact, it's actually quite basic and for a sum of less than £500k (which is peanuts compared to some of the other leaks).
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i see. is that <£500k tax saved or <£500k declared (and therefore tax saved way less)
 
Manchester33 said:
Legally earned a salary in Qatar, then legally transferred said money into an Andorran account. Then legally declared said account to Spanish Government during a sort of amnesty period.

The papers reveal that he's avoided paying taxes to the Spanish state. However, it's not illegal. In fact, it's actually quite basic and for a sum of less than £500k (which is peanuts compared to some of the other leaks).
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Amuses me that the media refer to Andorra as offshore when it's in the mountains about 50 miles from his home town.
 
shemnel said:
i see. is that <£500k tax saved or <£500k declared (and therefore tax saved way less)
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<£500k declared. Also, I'm not sure how Spanish tax works, I don't think it's too dissimilar to UK tax, but because he earned the money whilst residing abroad, he wouldn't have to pay income tax on it. So we're literally talking about nothing. He hasn't defrauded the Spanish taxman in any way.
 
SPIDERBOY said:
Think offshore means not your country of residence.....could be wrong though.
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That's not quite what it means, but essentially right. It just means an account outside of your home jurisdiction (not country). Hence why places like Jersey, which are technically the same country (England) class as offshore.
 
Blue Mist said:
Well so far the only one mentioned in the news is the War Criminal Blair. The corrupt bastard bought a house via an off shore account to avoid tax.

£321,000 in stamp duty and despite the OP desperate for it to name Tories, no one is being named !!!!
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Tony Blair avoided £321k in tax in one transaction - the same as an average person earns in 10 years or the more than most people pay in tax in a lifetime. We need a party that will close these tax loopholes so these c*nts can stop saying "we've done nothing wrong". & Dr. Rashford is one huge hypocrite. Shaming the government to pay more to the poor whilst avoiding tax. Where does he think the money for free school meals and tax credit hike comes from?
 
Only on bluemoon and in fairness the country at large.

Huge story hardly any posts on it
Tory posters jumping on Blair
Labour supporters defending Blair
labour posters jumping on Tories
Everyone defending Pep due to common interest
Everything legal is okay if it’s one of your own but morally wrong if it’s not.

Haha sad fuckers.
 
Blue Mist said:
I meant he is corrupt not because of this deal, everything he does, before and after this deal. The man has the blood of thousands on his hands.
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And Cameron doesn't? Just a gentle reminder that he created wars in a different way by launching £120 million of cruise missiles at Libya and under his watch and subsequent Tory Governments since 150,000+ have died due to DWP sanctions .(UN Report)

Plus the corruption of the Greensill scandal.
 
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