The Piccadilly Gardens Problem - new development proposal (P32)

Simple really, nuke the place

No, remove the park, the walls etc, turn off the fountain when its on.

Have a proper police presence on the area, street drinking? Take it off people, they do it again then follow up with the proper powers.

Heck I would even block off the full area so nobody can access it, remove the market part to another part of the city centre, where its a little more open for expansion and doesnt allow scumbags to run amok inbetween the stalls

Makes you wonder if it's done intentionally as it's easier to encourage them to hang around in one place, rather than be dispersed all over the city.
 
Makes you wonder if it's done intentionally as it's easier to encourage them to hang around in one place, rather than be dispersed all over the city.

true!

Although they did push many of the drug users into near China town a few years back, still remember when i worked just behind piccadilly tower on same street as The Gym, we had the site of 3 blokes shooting up in front of our window.
 
inbetween mother macs, spoons and the other shithole attached to sachas isn't it.

What really upsets me is that we live in a society where the lawless have taken over the sympathy from the homeless and the people with genuine mental health issues.

Aided and abetted by the people who see Manchester as their playground where they pretend to be poor to fit in, it's a measure of where we are.
 
Turn it into a massive royal rumble ring.

'auditors' Vs 'junkies'. Last person standing wins a free pint of cyanide.

I'll even let the Northern Quarter beardy no socks, short pant wearing hipsters join in if they fancy it.
 
Was walking through town once and this scruffy **** says "spare some change mate" in a weird accent.

I asked where he was from...."Stoke" he said.

Fuck off back to Stoke then you scruffy tramp says Mr Sympathy.
 



Looks like it's getting much better ;)

Out of town dick, using the term “guys” way too often.
Says “lots of people there taking drugs / selling drugs. It’s calm now but I’m sure it will kick off soon, I really hope it doesn’t…”

Yeah of course you don’t want it to kick off… that’s the only reason you are there with your body guard
 
Out of town dick, using the term “guys” way too often.
Says “lots of people there taking drugs / selling drugs. It’s calm now but I’m sure it will kick off soon, I really hope it doesn’t…”

Yeah of course you don’t want it to kick off… that’s the only reason you are there with your body guard
They're all fucking mental
 
They're all fucking mental
I can't deny it's addictive watching.. And maybe I'm part of the problem.

I can't help think there's a more sinister motive behind these videos. It's not to make society better by highlighting issues but to get clicks at any cost with no morals. Something I've noticed in that video posted today is he'll show a scene in the gardens with verbals and then about 3 or 4 times cut to a video of violence that isn't from the same day or even the same channel. It's almost like all these "auditors" are working together. Billy Moore, Vietch this fella and a few others all seem to hire the same bodyguard, rotate round different towns and have the same beliefs. Could they all be on the payroll of the same person?
Like that time when all the footy fan channels all had the same owner but didn't disclose it
 
I can't deny it's addictive watching.. And maybe I'm part of the problem.

I can't help think there's a more sinister motive behind these videos. It's not to make society better by highlighting issues but to get clicks at any cost with no morals. Something I've noticed in that video posted today is he'll show a scene in the gardens with verbals and then about 3 or 4 times cut to a video of violence that isn't from the same day or even the same channel. It's almost like all these "auditors" are working together. Billy Moore, Vietch this fella and a few others all seem to hire the same bodyguard, rotate round different towns and have the same beliefs. Could they all be on the payroll of the same person?
Like that time when all the footy fan channels all had the same owner but didn't disclose it
They are all just making money out of misery …… it’s a virus this stuff and Piccadilly is the patient
 
Denis Mitchell was the Charlie Veitch of '57...he spent the night filming in Manchester talking to to the nightwatchmen and ladies of the night...people seemed less enamoured with the camera, though the religious tricks seem very much similar, perhaps a tad less aggressive.

That was well worth watching, thanks for that!
There were a few obviously staged bits, just as the nightwatchman with the runaway boy, but a great snapshot nonetheless.
Was great to see a Manchester dartboard - not seen one of those in decades.
Music by Ewan MacColl, too.
 
Part of the problem is that being a lawless **** is seen as a lifestyle choice. Nicking stuff to order, wandering around shoplifting because they need to rather than because they are starving and short of cash.
The gardens is an eyesore, but there is plenty of shit going on, and going unpunished, all over the place.
 

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